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aermotor · 05-24-2015, 03:49 PM

Got scared about torqueing the head - warping, leaking, busting water outlet etc. Les Andrews book does not address the number 8 stud. Am I okay in torqueing to 20" lbs before installation in the car, removing the #8 nut to install the ignition cable clamp after engine installation and then finish the torqueing in 10 # increments?

Bob C · 05-24-2015, 04:37 PM

Unless your going for fine points judging I think a lot of people
leave the clamp off. That way if you have to change the distributor
out on the road you don't have to worry about draining the coolant
and torquing the head..

Bob

wmws · 05-24-2015, 04:39 PM

Number 8 stud should be longer so I put my cable holder on top of the nut so if I want to remover the distributor I don't have to disturb the the torque of that stud.

Tom Wesenberg · 05-24-2015, 06:25 PM

Yes, the way you state the question should work fine.

Just don't use a paper gasket for the water outlet.

Larry Jenkins · 05-24-2015, 07:34 PM

Tom.. Why no paper gasket? What did Henry use?

Larry Jenkins

Jim/GA · 05-24-2015, 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Tom.. Why no paper gasket? What did Henry use?

Larry Jenkins

Many people have the ears(s) on the water outlet neck crack when torquing the head up to spec when they use a paper gasket.

Your options are a thick copper sandwich style gasket (original style) or no gasket, but a narrow bead of RTV instead. (That's what's on my S/W Town Sedan right now).

Whatever way you go, you want the mating surfaces to be flat and true.

Tom Wesenberg · 05-24-2015, 10:30 PM

Yes, what Jim said.
Years ago my friend broke two outlets and I broke one before we learned it was the paper gaskets getting wet and squeezing out at the ears. Since using copper or no gaskets, I haven't broken any more outlets.

BTW, I've never looked at the blueprints for the coolant fittings, but every original outlet and inlet gasket I've seen has been brass.

Mike V. Florida · 05-24-2015, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Tom.. Why no paper gasket? What did Henry use?

Larry Jenkins

Henry did not use a torque wrench.

05-24-2015, 03:49 PM	#1
aermotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,099	Head torque Got scared about torqueing the head - warping, leaking, busting water outlet etc. Les Andrews book does not address the number 8 stud. Am I okay in torqueing to 20" lbs before installation in the car, removing the #8 nut to install the ignition cable clamp after engine installation and then finish the torqueing in 10 # increments?

05-24-2015, 04:37 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,755	Re: Head torque Unless your going for fine points judging I think a lot of people leave the clamp off. That way if you have to change the distributor out on the road you don't have to worry about draining the coolant and torquing the head.. Bob

05-24-2015, 04:39 PM	#3
wmws BANNED Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coatesville, Pa Posts: 719	Re: Head torque Number 8 stud should be longer so I put my cable holder on top of the nut so if I want to remover the distributor I don't have to disturb the the torque of that stud.

05-24-2015, 06:25 PM	#4
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Head torque Yes, the way you state the question should work fine. Just don't use a paper gasket for the water outlet.

05-24-2015, 07:34 PM	#5
Larry Jenkins BANNED Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: East Central Iowa Posts: 1,275	Re: Head torque Tom.. Why no paper gasket? What did Henry use? Larry Jenkins

05-24-2015, 10:30 PM	#7
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Head torque Yes, what Jim said. Years ago my friend broke two outlets and I broke one before we learned it was the paper gaskets getting wet and squeezing out at the ears. Since using copper or no gaskets, I haven't broken any more outlets. BTW, I've never looked at the blueprints for the coolant fittings, but every original outlet and inlet gasket I've seen has been brass.