11-27-2023, 11:57 AM | #1 |
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Engine Install
Hello gang, I am getting ready to reinstall my engine after having checked everything out and making a few improvements. I have aligned the clutch disk to the pilot bearing with the alignment tool. What are some tips and tricks with installing the engine back in it's proper location? I plan to add a couple long bolts to help with alignment. One of my concerns is matching the clutch and transmission splines. I really don't want to remove the transmission if not necessary.
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11-27-2023, 01:04 PM | #2 |
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Re: Engine Install
Several methods to accomplish the install. I find installing the engine with the transmission attached easier. With the aid of a frame spreader, aligning the transmission and the U-joint goes pretty smooth. It’s also a great time to call in a favor or two and have a couple friends to help.
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11-27-2023, 01:16 PM | #3 |
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Put one rear wheel (only one) on a jack stand, and put your transmission in third gear. That way once you get the transmission close you (or your helper) can rotate the tire which will rotate the driveshaft to "clunk" the splines on the transmission input shaft into the clutch disk. Don't forget to lightly grease the transmission input shaft and the nose that fits into the pilot bearing.
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11-27-2023, 02:42 PM | #4 |
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I would remove your transmission. Now you can check and grease the u-joint.
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11-27-2023, 03:02 PM | #5 |
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I installed an engine in my chassi last Saturday. Transmission was already in the chassi.
Put Transmission in neutral. Remove inspetion plate from Clutch housing (Bell Housing). Using flashlight you can see the Clutch Splines. Install Engine to within 1" or even 1/2" of the Transmission Input shaft. Using your trusty flashlight again line splines of the Transmission up with the slpines of the Clutch disc. Move engine back until the splines almost touch. Final lineup is done by raising or lowering the transmission with a floor jack. If splines are off 1/2 spline make final correction with a big screwdriver, using the screwdriver to rotate the splines on the Transmission shaft. The other critical measurement - or fit - make sure the Flywheel cover and the Bell Housing are pararell to one another. If they are not pararell the splines will be hard or impossible to get to slide together. -top and bottom, left and right parraell. Raise or lower the Transmission and the Bell House to match the Flywheel Cover. Somewhere in all this some bad words in a foreign language, when ladies are not present, might be necessary. gotta larn how th spel parreeell. |
11-27-2023, 03:20 PM | #6 |
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11-27-2023, 03:59 PM | #7 |
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I have only pulled the engine septrately once. I must admit I just hate dealing with the frame pinching the bellhousing area. I'm always fearful of cracking the frame.
I have a bar that tilts and engine when installing. However the thing is sooooo long it hits the firewall, and is useless. I just got a little over 40% of it cut off, and welded back together. I used it a few weeks ago to put an engine back into my streetrod, and what a breeze. The next time I pull the engine on my A I bet I use that, and pull the engine only. |
11-27-2023, 05:46 PM | #8 |
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If you are going to end up installing the engine with the gearbox attached, be VERY careful when you align the spline on the drive shaft with the universal joint. When the alignment is just right, they can come together very quickly. DON'T have your fingers in there. Use long nosed pliers or screw drivers, anything but fingers.
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11-27-2023, 06:59 PM | #9 |
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11-27-2023, 09:40 PM | #13 |
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Sorry I do not remember the correct length of the cut down bolts.
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11-28-2023, 12:00 AM | #14 |
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11-28-2023, 10:31 AM | #15 |
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Y-Blockhead, that is great. I love any excuse to get the welder out.
Dan in MI, no worries, I think I'll go with a couple 2.5" and see how they work out. Thanks all. |
11-28-2023, 11:18 AM | #16 |
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I've had my engine in and out twice by myself, leaving the trans in the car and it wasn't too hard.
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11-28-2023, 12:29 PM | #17 |
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My leveling bar hits the firewall when I use the #1 and #4 spark plug holes to lift the engine or head. I'm going to try using the #1 and #3 holes next time.
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11-28-2023, 05:15 PM | #18 |
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11-29-2023, 12:26 PM | #19 |
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Here is a simple way to line up the splines on the input shaft. I mark the high point of two splines next to each other on the input shaft with a white marker. I also mark a low point on the clutch disk spline. Raise the transmission to match the clutch splines with the input shaft splines so that the input shaft is about to go in. Put the transmission in neutral. Shine a flash light through the inspection hole on the clutch housing, reach in and turn the input shaft to line up the marks, push the engine back and you are in.
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12-03-2023, 12:30 AM | #20 |
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+1 on the long bolts/dowels. My son and I figured that one out after fighting the engine to transmission mating process. Once we did really long bolts it slid right together. The first time we tried without the long bolts my son learned a few new words from my vocabulary that aren’t used very often.
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