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Old 08-18-2012, 06:12 AM   #1
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Default Wet Black Soot Exhaust

My 38 runs well, however when I start the engine wet black soot shoots out the exhaust pipes. It makes a mess in the driveway. No drop in coolant or increase in oil. No gray smoke in exhaust. It does seem to be more than condensation. What is it?
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:29 AM   #2
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Since your not loosing coolant, the water has to be condensation and the black soot is most likely a rich burning condition. Pull several plugs and check for the soot deposits on them. If you baby the engine a lot or the carb has problems, the soot can build up. Depending upon the moisture in the air the there can be a lot of condensation.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:54 AM   #3
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i had that till I blew the carbon out of her. rich idle condition contributed greatly. Ken ct rebuilt the carb. It was after that the soot quit showing up. I do run 100 miles a week at highway speed, 60-65. as for the water you can put 1/8 holes at the exhaust low point etc. but I'm not seeing that either anymore and I didn't drill the exhaust..
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:59 AM   #4
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Put a large bottle of Barr's heavy duty aiuminum stop leak in and it will stop. G.M.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:29 AM   #5
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Barr's stops condensation in your exhaust? And carbon from a rich mixture?? ..B.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:31 AM   #6
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would you happen to live in a damp climate? as I do, if so bk53 is correct and do pull the plugs to look at them. I have been using NGK and Autolite 216 with better results than the AC plugs for some strange reason also check for a good spark
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:37 AM   #7
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I have LOTS of old Fords and most did this and the Barr's stops it. On a cool day you will get a little condensation but what was described is a typical small leak. This mixes with the carbon in the pipes and muffler and makes the black mess. G.M.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:42 AM   #8
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If you're running too rich, do you turn the jets in or out?
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #9
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the idle mixture screws ... in leans them out I think. I never got it right and finally had an old t-bird guy do it. he didn't say what he did but its perfect and so I ain't even looking at them. Somebody else here knowsd way more about it than i do. I think proper timing for your setup will make a big difference too.

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Old 08-18-2012, 12:48 PM   #10
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Set with vacuum guage. Rather than type it all, I pasted this.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/howto/45638/
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:51 PM   #11
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Aren't the idle mixture screws strictly for what they are called? Adjusting the idle. If you are running rich I would think that means you need to change your jet size or your choke is not open all the way. ?
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #12
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If you're running too rich, do you turn the jets in or out?
That only affects the idle mix. ken ct.
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Aren't the idle mixture screws strictly for what they are called? Adjusting the idle. If you are running rich I would think that means you need to change your jet size or your choke is not open all the way. ?
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Water is one of the products of combustion, and is most noticeable before the engine gets to operating temperature. It is still present at operating temperature, but not as a liquid. Warmup on choke adds the carbon, thus the typical driveway mess. Use thermostats and warm it up on the road. ..B.
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That only affects the idle mix. ken ct.
Actually the idle circuit continues to provide fuel at low load/low throttle angle driving conditions. So a rich idle can also lead to poorer gas mileage.
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I have LOTS of old Fords and most did this and the Barr's stops it. On a cool day you will get a little condensation but what was described is a typical small leak. This mixes with the carbon in the pipes and muffler and makes the black mess. G.M.
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just curious about how long you are running your engine....trips??....getting engine temp up to normal and running it that way for a while??....thanks....Mike
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tom b

take off aircleaner.

start engine.

look down carb and make sure

you don't see gas pouring into engine.

that's stuck float.

use a bright flashlight and safety glasses,

in case of backfire.

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If you're running too rich, do you turn the jets in or out?
So: What is it?

Will adjusting theese screws cure fouling/Carbon on plugs?

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In..! If your still fouling plugs,rebuild the carb.
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