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Old 06-16-2021, 03:08 PM   #1
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Thanks to all the people who helped me with my engine problem, but I've come to the conclusion that I'm just not a Model A person. There are too many variables, and I can't keep up with them all.

My last old car was a 1952 Buick. I had to do a lot of work on it, but once I had the brakes finished, I could drive it all around for a hundred miles at a time with no problems and without being part of an organized tour. My friend has a 1956 Cadillac, and he spends his time driving it rather than working on it. That's the way I would like it.

I hadn't thought about it before, but some people like owning a car that requires membership in a club, and some people like just owning a car. I'm in the latter group.

Thanks again for all your help, and if anybody's interested in a 1931 Deluxe Roadster, let me know.
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:27 PM   #2
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Well I definitely understand your position as I have known others like yourself in a similar scenario. The likely issue is you purchased a car that you were told was Restored, however in reality, it probably wasn't, ...and now that is affecting your joy. You must remember however, the Model-A was VERY reliable when it was new, ...and can be when it is properly and thoroughly restored to be like it was when new. A 1956 Cadillac can be a unreliable car just like a worn Model-A can, ...so it really isn't that you aren't a Model-A guy, its more than you are a poor soul that was mislead on what you were purchasing. None the less, best wishes and hopefully you will find a better quality vehicle to enjoy.
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Old 06-17-2021, 07:23 AM   #3
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Well I definitely understand your position as I have known others like yourself in a similar scenario. The likely issue is you purchased a car that you were told was Restored, however in reality, it probably wasn't, ...and now that is affecting your joy. You must remember however, the Model-A was VERY reliable when it was new, ...and can be when it is properly and thoroughly restored to be like it was when new. A 1956 Cadillac can be a unreliable car just like a worn Model-A can, ...so it really isn't that you aren't a Model-A guy, its more than you are a poor soul that was mislead on what you were purchasing. None the less, best wishes and hopefully you will find a better quality vehicle to enjoy.

I was in his shoes, recently, too. This is exactly what happened to me. My '28 is a restored car and I bought it, drove it the 65 miles home and now it sits in the garage awaiting an engine overhaul missing out on summer fun. I put it up for sale once, but backed out and now I'm feeling better and buckling down for the long haul! These are great cars and I'm sure one day I'll enjoy it.
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Old 06-19-2021, 04:45 PM   #4
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Well I definitely understand your position as I have known others like yourself in a similar scenario. The likely issue is you purchased a car that you were told was Restored, however in reality, it probably wasn't, ...and now that is affecting your joy. You must remember however, the Model-A was VERY reliable when it was new, ...and can be when it is properly and thoroughly restored to be like it was when new. A 1956 Cadillac can be a unreliable car just like a worn Model-A can, ...so it really isn't that you aren't a Model-A guy, its more than you are a poor soul that was mislead on what you were purchasing. None the less, best wishes and hopefully you will find a better quality vehicle to enjoy.
If all the little things like wiring and carb and ignition are bad chances are the big things are bad too.
I would advise you to make a plan for how to make thecar do what you want it for.
A mechanical restoration would be reliable,.
replacing parts as you go will not.


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Old 06-19-2021, 05:29 PM   #5
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If all the little things like wiring and carb and ignition are bad chances are the big things are bad too.
I would advise you to make a plan for how to make thecar do what you want it for.
A mechanical restoration would be reliable,.
replacing parts as you go will not.


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If the car in his avatar is the car that he is working on, id say it has gone under some sort of restoration already. I think its a little early to say that he needs a restoration. Im thinking it has probably been restored but not sorted. We all have different views of what a restoration includes. However any rebuild/restoration will require some tinkering to get the last bugs out. Wether it be from human error or faulty products. Keep plugging away Garcia, many smiles to come.
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:29 PM   #6
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There are many different reasons someone wants a specific antique or classic car.

Find one you like and enjoy it. Good luck.
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:40 PM   #7
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I get it.

I have been working on my 28 for a long time without even remotely trying to start it. I'm afraid I much prefer working on cars than driving them.

I was that way with racing bicycles. I was always a much better mechanic than a racer. Now I am a professional mechanic and wheel builder. I'd rather turn a wrench than ride.

Luckily we all need all types to keep it going.

Wish I could afford to buy and house another car....
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Took my honeymoon in a 1950 straight eight when I was 20. I always enjoyed parking in it more than driving it!
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Diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks. If you want to just dispose of that troublesome ol’ Model A, I’ll take it off your hands and even haul it away for a nominal fee.
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Old 06-16-2021, 04:54 PM   #10
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I'm actually hoping I can sell the thing, but I'm almost nearing the level of frustration where I would pay somebody to take it away.

I feel like Mick Jagger:

Nothin' I do don't seem to work,
It only seems to make matters worse.
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I'm actually hoping I can sell the thing, but I'm almost nearing the level of frustration where I would pay somebody to take it away.

I feel like Mick Jagger:

Nothin' I do don't seem to work,
It only seems to make matters worse.
There's a learning curve that once you get over it becomes little of an issue. Maybe step back from it for a week or two and reassess. Purdy car and you'll enjoy it once you are comfortable with it.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:54 PM   #12
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I'm interested, what's your price? I live about 160 miles from you. 509- 670-0408. I would bring cash and a trailer.
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I'm actually hoping I can sell the thing, but I'm almost nearing the level of frustration where I would pay somebody to take it away.

I feel like Mick Jagger:

Nothin' I do don't seem to work,
It only seems to make matters worse.
just drive it and enjoy it
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:13 PM   #14
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I don't do convoys or clubs, I built mine to drive in traffic anytime I want.. double the power of a stock A, overdrive and a few other goodies..12v,modern LED lighting,f100 steering, modern radials, cast iron drums with Teds floaters and woven shoes..it can compete in CA traffic.. hop up that roadster, enjoy it..
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Hmm, too bad. The Model A is a good reliable vehicle, but, like anything does require some work/maintenance. They can be difficult to drive until used to them. However, I do enjoy working on it when needed.

I drive the heck out of mine and don't even know of a local club.
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I drive the heck out of mine and don't even know of a local club.
So what do you do when your engine dies after 90 seconds and you've done all the steps in the troubleshooting book?
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So what do you do when your engine dies after 90 seconds and you've done all the steps in the troubleshooting book?
These cars were very reliable when they were new and there is no reason that they can not be made to be as reliable today. There has to be a reason that you are having this problem and it is most likely something very simple. Sometimes it takes a little more understanding of the car than what is covered in the repair manuals. Are you involved with a Model A club in your area. Usually, there are several members who are very good at diagnosing and help with fixing a problem such as you are having.

I did a complete restoration my self on a '30 Tudor that I have been driving for about 12 years now. I have about 17K miles on it with very few problems. I would not hesitate to start out cross country in it.

I have purchased 2 other Model A's that had been previously restored, both I would not want to get more than walking distance from my shop when I first drove them but after some sorting our and correcting some poor work done by others, both became very reliable cars.

All my Model A's are close to what they were when they left the factory, even down to the original 6 volt electrical system with a generator. I can let my cars sit for several months and they will start right up and are ready to go. I have not done anything special to make my cars reliable.

If you lived near by, I would take your car and straighten it out for you.

My opinion,

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So what do you do when your engine dies after 90 seconds and you've done all the steps in the troubleshooting book?
I had a similar issue with mine when i first got it. I found that the screen inside of the gas tank was plugged with scale/rust. I ended up removing the gas line from the carburetor and blowing air back into the tank to get the junk pushed off of the screen. It hasnt had that issue since. If you try this, make sure you remove your gas cap and go easy with the air. Im not sure if this will be your fix but it worked for me. Id say its worth a try.
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I had a similar issue with mine when i first got it. I found that the screen inside of the gas tank was plugged with scale/rust. I ended up removing the gas line from the carburetor and blowing air back into the tank to get the junk pushed off of the screen. It hasnt had that issue since. If you try this, make sure you remove your gas cap and go easy with the air. Im not sure if this will be your fix but it worked for me. Id say its worth a try.

Reminds me of the 1967 'Bonnie & Clyde' movie. "Dirt in the fuel line. Just blowed her away." I had this same thing with my 1955 Chevy truck some 30 years ago. The dealer worked on it and claimed it was a bad fuel pump. They replaced it and said they drove it for miles after that. Nope. It would idle just fine, but when I gave it the gas it would flat out stall. I did just what you are saying and it fixed it. I put a sock over the inlet and it was fine. They didn't give us our money back for the miss diagnosis, though.
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If you don't have the desire or skill to work on it then it isn't for you..buy a Honda.
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