04-14-2020, 09:03 PM | #1 |
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E 85
Has anyone tried e 85 in their car and what was your findings
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04-14-2020, 09:10 PM | #2 |
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I've used it in other non-E85 vehicles. Runs fine, gas mileage drops considerably. Tough on rubber hoses, might be bad if you have a Viton tipped needle valve. Can't see what else it could hurt...
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04-14-2020, 09:49 PM | #3 |
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Model A didn't seem to care. However, there was a noticeable loss of fuel economy.
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04-14-2020, 10:26 PM | #5 |
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It attacks tern plate in the inside of your gas tank that isn't being reproduced.
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04-15-2020, 09:21 AM | #6 |
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I doubt if too many tanks still have a lot of lead/tin coating left in them but the stuff is an oxidizer so it will definitely promote moisture absorption and corrosion. It's nasty to pot metal or about any other soft metal due to the oxidation so it would be hard on any remnants of lead/tin that might be still in there. Tillotson carbs or other fuel system parts made from zinc die castings wouldn't like it much.
A model A engine could run on straight alcohol but it would have to have some big jets in the carb to do it. It would likely get about 8-miles to the gallon or worse but it would run. |
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to Big Hammer: DON'T USE GASOLINE TO CLEAN PARTS - I HAVE A DECEASED FRIEND WHO DID AND PERISHED WITH HIS CAR, GARAGE AND HIMSELF.
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04-15-2020, 11:27 AM | #10 |
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E85 would likely clean the tank, and all that gunk would be sent to the carb, not good!
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Interestingly, the government requires at least 15% gasoline in E85 (thus the 85%) so there will be visible flame if the stuff catches fire (an alcohol fire is invisible). This is so first responders (you maybe) to an accident don't walk into a raging fire. Last edited by 40 Deluxe; 04-15-2020 at 12:53 PM. |
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04-15-2020, 05:46 PM | #12 |
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You are right about starting on alcohol. Ether is the usual way to start one but few folks mess with stuff like that now days. Ford tractors could be set up to run with kerosene back in the war time era. Up in southwestern Kansas where I'm originally from, they used to run casinghead gas from the natural gas wells. The stuff was a lot like running kerosene.
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I ran casinghead gas in my Cushman motor scooter in Pratt, Kansas.
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04-15-2020, 07:57 PM | #14 |
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I live in an area where I can get real gas that is alcohol free, so that is all I use in my Model A , lawn mower and chain saws.
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I have home delivery of non-ethanol gas and yesterday it was $2.15 a gallon.
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04-16-2020, 11:32 AM | #16 |
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Stay far away from the stuff.
Brother-in-law ran it in his brand new Chevy pickup and by the time he had 60,000 miles on his truck it was back in the shop with major engine problems. The Chevy mechanic, first thing, asked him 'You aren't running E-85 are you?' Brother-in-Law said 'yes I thought that was a good thing' they told him never ever use that crap again and showed him how it screwed up the motor in his truck. E-10 is hard to stay away from. If you use MMO and a good fuel stabilizer like Startron that the outboard motor boat guys use that helps a lot. Buy straight gasoline when you can. |
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Ethanol has a high octane rating so you could run more ignition timing. E-85 probably has an octane rating of nearly 100 but if your car is not set up for it, it won't do you any good. As a matter of fact along with the other problems it creates it has less energy than regular so your milage would suffer. It is just like people who think that running high test in a car that doesn't call for it think they are going to get better millage.
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The point of this story is that he said that they always carried a small glass whiskey flask filled with real gasoline in their pockets. They always had to prime / start these engines on the real gas first then would wean it onto the alcohol once warm and running. Necessity is the Mother of Invention..... |
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What was the fuel mileage on your BIL's pickup? I bet he complained about it! Mileage drops by a good third. If it got, say, 21 MPG on plain gas, it would have dropped to about 14. Does he still have it? Still using E85? |
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