|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
01-11-2013, 05:47 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
timing indicators
For those that have been asking my stainless steel timing indicators are back on ebay. thanks
Last edited by miss victoria; 01-11-2013 at 06:56 PM. |
01-11-2013, 07:12 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 1,219
|
Re: timing indicators
Great news!
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
01-11-2013, 07:17 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
Re: timing indicators
Yes John and the quality is even better then the last ones! (and they were nice)
|
01-11-2013, 08:11 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
Just ordered one!
|
01-11-2013, 08:24 PM | #5 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
|
Re: timing indicators
How bout a link
|
01-11-2013, 08:27 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
|
01-11-2013, 08:29 PM | #7 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
|
Re: timing indicators
Thanks Carl
|
01-12-2013, 01:51 AM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 1,276
|
Re: timing indicators
Thanks Carl for the link. I bought one, and thanks Miss V for making them, I need one and have been looking for them.
That said, I dont like pay pal for a variety of reasons, one of which is why do you get $10 off if you dont pay now and pay full price if you do. I dont mind someone making an honest buck, but my guess is that pay pal is using card/credit info for something I dont want them to use if for, and are making more than the kickback they give. Call me a cynic. So I paid the full price and hope Miss V gets it, less whatever the commission is so long as its reasonable. Look forward to getting the piece. But another Pay Pal complaint I have is that I cannot print out a receipt in case I do not get it. They promised to email a receipt, but I have yet to get it. Usually you get one in a few minutes from other businesses. They got the money, I am waiting for the item, with no proof of purchase. So that's my rant. |
01-12-2013, 11:54 AM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Claremont, CA 91711
Posts: 244
|
Re: timing indicators
Look like a nice tool. Tell me more about it. Thanks, Bill
|
01-12-2013, 02:02 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
Re: timing indicators
tells you all all about it on ebay. what else would you like to know? glad to help.
|
01-12-2013, 05:30 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ACT Australia
Posts: 506
|
Re: timing indicators
Does it fit the B model as well?
Manuel in Oz |
01-12-2013, 05:42 PM | #12 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
Quote:
|
|
01-12-2013, 06:15 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
Re: timing indicators
I never thought about about sending a receipt, always figured an ebay tracking number was all needed. as a seller ebay and pay pal are costly but i feel safe both for the seller and buyer.
|
01-12-2013, 07:01 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: toledo,ohio
Posts: 171
|
Re: timing indicators
you the same guy selling them on ebay before??? i sent a postal money order for one and never saw it arrive... no letter of explaination or anything... finally sent away for copy of money order ,recieved back no expenation of transaction,just check from post office for the amount of m/o...im out the excess postage and the $5 for copy of money order....hows that for buisiness!!!......kev
|
01-13-2013, 10:45 AM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
Re: timing indicators
Im sorry to here that,as i said they took the money order from me ,and you gave me a negitive on ebay killing my 100% feedback looks like we both lost at least they found they were wrong and sent your money back.i cant repair my feed back score.
|
01-13-2013, 11:37 AM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok.
Posts: 1,977
|
Re: timing indicators
I use to see these made out of brass. Are these units aluminum?
__________________
Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group. |
01-13-2013, 11:38 AM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 310
|
Re: timing indicators
stainless steel
|
01-13-2013, 12:20 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 1,219
|
Re: timing indicators
When Dave started making these we reviewed them in the Model A Times. They are a quality piece. We have one on most of the cars and I just ordered another one for the roadster pickup that was at SEMA. Being in stainless makes them easy to see and avoids any corrosion.
|
01-14-2013, 01:08 AM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ACT Australia
Posts: 506
|
Re: timing indicators
Since I got no answer. Can I presume they would fit a B?? Manuel in Oz |
01-14-2013, 10:18 AM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 1,219
|
Re: timing indicators
While I have not put this on a B this is speculation. The piece mounts using bolts holding the timing cover and since they are in the same spot A to B that part will work. Of course the B timing pin is in a different position but shouldn't effect it. You will have to put a mark on the crank pulley, indicating Top Dead Center. This you do on the A as well. I would say it should work, but like I said I haven't done it on a B but really like having an accurate way to adjust the timing, using a timing light.
|
01-14-2013, 11:46 AM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 1,276
|
Re: timing indicators
Does anyone make a timing indicator with a pointer that would work with the Stipe undersized pulley, which has timing marks on the pulley?
|
01-14-2013, 07:53 PM | #22 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ACT Australia
Posts: 506
|
Re: timing indicators
Quote:
Thanks John. I would like to give it a go. Cheers, Manuel in Oz |
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
01-18-2013, 11:29 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
I received my Timing Indicator today. What a beautiful piece of work. I'll be putting it on my engine tomorrow. Thanks Dave!
__________________
Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club |
01-19-2013, 12:59 AM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
|
Re: timing indicators
Just think, Carl, If everyone had an indicator & used a trusty old timing light, we then wouldn't have those LOOOOOOOOOOOONG threads on "HOW DO I SET MY TIMING" (SNIFF!) Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" |
01-19-2013, 10:11 AM | #25 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: new britain,ct 06052
Posts: 9,389
|
Re: timing indicators
Bill: Right, you'd then have posts about how to time with a light.........JMO
Paul in CT |
01-19-2013, 02:06 PM | #26 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
__________________
Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club |
04-29-2013, 08:34 PM | #27 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 240
|
Re: timing indicators
I bought one of these indicators, like everyone has said its a nice piece, however I have a model b motor and timing cover. When I use this indicator and use a timing light it shows the advance at idle off the scale, at about 40 degrees, this of course can't be right.
I don't think it will work with a model b, anyone else have a similar experience? |
04-29-2013, 10:41 PM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Redding Cal
Posts: 1,388
|
Re: timing indicators
Does this work as a "check" after you have set the timing? I might be dumb but I just can't see how you can use a timing light on an A.
|
04-30-2013, 12:08 AM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Coastal Mississippi & Central West Florida
Posts: 206
|
Re: timing indicators
It is pretty much a trial-and-error method in that you cannot adjust the timing while the engine is running. The timing light will enable you to verify exactly where the timing is, but in order to adjust it you must turn the engine off and adjust the distributor cam and the re-start to see where the mark is. You are accustomed to being able to turn the distributor to adjust the timing while the engine is running. You can't do it that way on an A. But you can duplicate the exact timing over and over once you find where your car runs best.
__________________
Ed LAW OF MECHANICAL REPAIR ONCE YOUR HANDS BECOME COVERED WITH GREASE,
YOUR NOSE WILL ITCH AND YOU'LL HAVE TO PEE |
04-30-2013, 06:20 AM | #30 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
|
Re: timing indicators
Quote:
I'm running RESISTOR wires, just because one dude said it won't run with them! HAA! & maybe my ooooold Transistor radio will sound better. We'll find out tomorrow! Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" |
|
04-30-2013, 06:51 AM | #31 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Asheville,NC
Posts: 3,104
|
Re: timing indicators
Bill, it wouldn't make any difference. The distributor won't turn and you have to remove the cap with the motor off to adjust the timing.
__________________
http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com/ |
04-30-2013, 07:07 AM | #32 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
|
Re: timing indicators
Yep, I know, James, did that for years on Minerva, sure was nice, later, when I bought a Mallory single point distributor. That distributor made it like a different car. Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" |
04-30-2013, 07:23 AM | #33 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 240
|
Re: timing indicators
Sorry should have stated that I was using a FSI electronic distributor. Still, the question is with an original distributor or the FSI distributor I don't think the model A indicator with a model B motor works. Seems like it should but the scale is off. What am I missing?
|
04-30-2013, 08:01 AM | #34 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 240
|
Re: timing indicators
After all this I think I answered my own question. It won't work as shipped for a model B. It would have to be mounted (facing the motor) further counter clock wise about 20 or more degrees to have the indicator scale work in a range for a model B.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll see if I make something work, unless someone has already come up with something. |
04-30-2013, 08:08 AM | #35 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Upstate New York
Posts: 1,149
|
Re: timing indicators
Looks like they are sold out!!!!!!!
__________________
AL in NY |
04-30-2013, 09:18 AM | #36 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 422
|
Re: timing indicators
saw them on ebay.
|
04-30-2013, 09:20 AM | #37 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Coastal Mississippi & Central West Florida
Posts: 206
|
Re: timing indicators
__________________
Ed LAW OF MECHANICAL REPAIR ONCE YOUR HANDS BECOME COVERED WITH GREASE,
YOUR NOSE WILL ITCH AND YOU'LL HAVE TO PEE |
04-30-2013, 09:42 AM | #38 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Redding Cal
Posts: 1,388
|
Re: timing indicators
Why would this be helpful? Give me a test light and I can get it just as perfect. I'm not sure I see the advantage. You time the motor as normal then hook up your test light to see if you did good? Sounds like a lot of extra work to me.
Pulling down the advance with the test light hooked up to check always works for me. If the test light lights when it hits the 1st or 2nd notch in the lever its timed. No closing up starting, stopping, fiddling starting again, burning my arm on the manifold needed. Bill, regular plug wires? The fun is in bumping those bronze straps, while the motor is running, with the back of your hand!!! It works better than a stiff cup of Joe to get you moving in the morning! Last edited by Tiny; 04-30-2013 at 09:49 AM. |
04-30-2013, 10:36 AM | #39 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Redding Cal
Posts: 1,388
|
Re: timing indicators
After re reading that I sound a bit grumpy this morning. Sorry
It does look like a quality piece. Just not for me |
04-30-2013, 10:51 AM | #40 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: So Cal
Posts: 8,713
|
Re: timing indicators
Did you take into account that with the B cover the pin drops in the dimple at 19° BTDC
not TDC like the A? |
04-30-2013, 10:53 AM | #41 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,109
|
Re: timing indicators
Once it is installed and your pulley is marked per the instructions, if it does nothing else, makes it easier to find TDC without having to take the timing pin out and "hunt" for the divot in the timing gear each time.
__________________
Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club |
04-30-2013, 12:49 PM | #42 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Redding Cal
Posts: 1,388
|
Re: timing indicators
What and give up the coat hanger trick! The blastphomie!!!
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
06-18-2013, 02:21 AM | #43 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ACT Australia
Posts: 506
|
Re: timing indicators
I wondered why there was dead silence when I asked about fitting it to B Models.
Now I know why :-( Putting it down to experience. See post 34. Manuel in Oz |
06-18-2013, 04:17 AM | #44 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Windy City
Posts: 2,919
|
Re: timing indicators
Quote:
You also need to read post 40. The indicator works on a B, but if you use the "B" timing pin to initially set up the indicator, make your pulley mark at 19 degrees, not zero. The engine will then correctly be at TDC when your pulley mark is at the indicator "0". If using a B dizzy, 19 indicated crank degrees is your pin "zero". The A dizzy manual lever range was 0-40 crank degrees. The B range was 19 initial plus another 17-18 or so if you force the centrifugal mechanism to it's limit. B theoretical total = 36-37 degree range. Post 34 is incorrect, the B runs in the same range, it just uses an advanced start point. Keep in mind that you will never run an A (or B) under load advanced anywhere near that theoretical limit. |
|
03-24-2020, 04:00 PM | #45 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 42
|
Re: timing indicators
I know this is an old post, but are these indicators available anywhere?
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|