Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-16-2016, 03:19 PM   #1
mshmodela
Senior Member
 
mshmodela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,751
Default Muffler Clamp

I noticed a few weeks ago my car sound just a tad louder than normal... Not like a hole in the muffler... well I think I found the source:



You can see the blacking near the clamp..

So are the muffler clamps etc from the suppler ok? I typically buy from Synders.


Thanks
__________________
-Mike

Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy

I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A.

Cleveland, Ohio
mshmodela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2016, 03:23 PM   #2
goodoldvic
Senior Member
 
goodoldvic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New Jersey shore
Posts: 239
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

I would put a bolt and nut on that sucker and go
goodoldvic is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 07-16-2016, 03:23 PM   #3
Gary WA
Senior Member
 
Gary WA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Clinton,WA/Whidbey Island
Posts: 3,242
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Yes good ones.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 02.jpg (76.3 KB, 6 views)
__________________
www.whidbeymodelaclub.com
Gary WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2016, 04:01 PM   #4
700rpm
Senior Member
 
700rpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 5,313
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

You need both bolts, make sure you have the manifold and muffler lined up perfectly, and that you don't have that clamp on upside down (it looks correct in your photo).
__________________
Ray Horton, Portland, OR


As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.
700rpm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2016, 04:34 PM   #5
mshmodela
Senior Member
 
mshmodela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,751
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Great thanks all!
__________________
-Mike

Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy

I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A.

Cleveland, Ohio
mshmodela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 12:38 AM   #6
Brentwood Bob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: brentwood, ca
Posts: 3,080
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
try brass nuts when you replace the missing bolt.
Bob
Brentwood Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 11:11 AM   #7
mshmodela
Senior Member
 
mshmodela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,751
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brentwood Bob View Post
try brass nuts when you replace the missing bolt.
Bob
I've order a new clamp and copper gasket but for now, the bolt with the missing nut is in place (not lost) , so I've removed the other bolt and nut (amazing what a QTIP of PB Baster will do on threads) to get a matching replacement nut... The bolts and their threads are in decent shape so I might just see how that works... I'll see if I can find a bass nut locally --thanks!
__________________
-Mike

Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy

I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A.

Cleveland, Ohio
mshmodela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 11:39 AM   #8
katy
Senior Member
 
katy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 2,750
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Just use a standard steel bolt and nut and put never seize on the threads.
__________________
Play it again Sam.
katy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 12:00 PM   #9
1930artdeco
Senior Member
 
1930artdeco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 2,785
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Is that clamp on correctly? It looks like it is upside down or am I seeing things?

Mike
__________________
1930 TownSedan (Briggs)
Still learning after all these years....
1930artdeco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 12:47 PM   #10
Tom Endy
Senior Member
 
Tom Endy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,673
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Bratton's sell a muffler paste that comes in a tube. Anytime I install a muffler clamp I put a bead of paste in the groove on each clamp piece. It makes a good seal when it hardens. If when I have reason to remove the clamp I clean out all the hardened paste and apply new.

Tom Endy
Tom Endy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 12:52 PM   #11
Brentwood Bob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: brentwood, ca
Posts: 3,080
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

I believe #9 is correct. The smaller radius goes on the exhaust pipe side. And The clamp probably does not need to be replaced, so I would not buy parts until I diagnosed the problem.
Bob
Brentwood Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 01:08 PM   #12
Patrick L.
Senior Member
 
Patrick L.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Upstate NY and western Florida
Posts: 5,887
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

I usually use the inside sleeve along with a gob [ technical term] of exhaust paste when installing that clamp. I also double nut them just for the heck of it.

And as said, the joint needs to line up almost perfectly.
Patrick L. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 01:17 PM   #13
C26Pinelake
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto.
Posts: 5,800
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Endy View Post
Bratton's sell a muffler paste that comes in a tube. Anytime I install a muffler clamp I put a bead of paste in the groove on each clamp piece. It makes a good seal when it hardens. If when I have reason to remove the clamp I clean out all the hardened paste and apply new.

Tom Endy
Smart man that Tom Endy! Wayne
C26Pinelake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 02:26 PM   #14
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,480
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

The clamp looks correct as pictured. The longer taper goes down.
I use a dab of muffler cement around the inside of the pipe flange.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 03:05 PM   #15
mshmodela
Senior Member
 
mshmodela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,751
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

I could not find any brass for now I grabbed some stainless and added two lock washers...
Did not over tighten it... just snug.... Silenced up the car! I wonder if the car might have been sucking in some of the exhaust from the Zenith (if so, if possible, a heat/less oxygen feedback if you will....)

She drove fine..

__________________
-Mike

Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy

I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A.

Cleveland, Ohio

Last edited by mshmodela; 07-17-2016 at 06:13 PM.
mshmodela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 04:03 PM   #16
Mitch//pa
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Sucking the exhaust back into the carb can foul the plugs black
Mitch//pa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2016, 04:40 PM   #17
Y-Blockhead
Senior Member
 
Y-Blockhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 4,265
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

I wouldn't use stainless without anti-seize. It may gall and you will have a time getting it off again.
__________________
Y-Blockhead
'30 Briggs Town Sedan
'55 Ford Ranchwagon
_________________________________
And once again that is just my 1 worth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ufACHJMfU
Y-Blockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2016, 08:21 AM   #18
BILL WILLIAMSON
Senior Member
 
BILL WILLIAMSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,558
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

"Someone" is making clamps that doesn't require NUTS. The Dog saw them "somewhere" while he was surfin'----
Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"
BILL WILLIAMSON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2016, 03:11 PM   #19
ModelABum
Junior Member
 
ModelABum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 3
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Any thoughts about the best way to orient the clamp? One part front, one part back; or one inside, one outside; or obliquely oriented; or doesn't matter at all? I've seen it all different ways, but obliquely seems more common in my experince.
ModelABum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2016, 04:16 PM   #20
Joe K
Senior Member
 
Joe K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cow Hampshire
Posts: 3,613
Default Re: Muffler Clamp

Quote:
Originally Posted by ModelABum View Post
Any thoughts about the best way to orient the clamp? One part front, one part back; or one inside, one outside; or obliquely oriented; or doesn't matter at all? I've seen it all different ways, but obliquely seems more common in my experince.
Think about how it might have been assembled in the factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZnGWJ_6BwU

If it was easy for them - then perhaps orient it to be easy for you?

Of course according to the video, the body was off when the muffler was attached.

Joe K
__________________
Shudda kept the horse.
Joe K is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23 AM.