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Old 07-19-2020, 01:48 PM   #1
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I have an interesting issue. Twice, when Iíve stopped to refuel, the engine barely turns over to restart Itís fine when cold, or on an immediate restart. This has only happened when sheís off for about 15 minutes or so. Luckily, I havenít needed a jump. Does this sound like a battery, starter, or ??? Problem?
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:19 PM   #2
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A hot engine turns over harder than a cold engine. Do you have the heavy battery cables, positive and negative? Those skinny little 12 volt cables from the auto parts store are not adequate. Check your battery and starter connections. Also, check your Positive ground strap where it attaches to the frame. Needs to be clean. If your frame is rusty, you can attach a positive ground cable directly to the flywheel housing on the engine. Makes a big difference.
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:33 PM   #3
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Hot Coil?
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:59 PM   #4
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If the engine has few miles since a rebuild, there is a possibilty that you don't have enough piston to cylinder wall clearence for pistons 3 and 4. I had an engine with this problem and it took some time for wear to increase the clearence. Just leave it idle and the cooling water will continue to circulate.
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:16 PM   #5
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When you stop for gas your retarding the spark? Advanced timing will cause hard starting.
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:25 PM   #6
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:14 PM   #7
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A hot coil can't affect the speed of the starter. The OP said it turns over slowly, not hard to start.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:31 PM   #8
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I had the same problem when I used to own my 46 Ford (Flathead V8 & 6 volt positive ground). Changed the battery cables to 00 gauge and noticed immediate improvement. Later-on the starter started to slow down a bit but after a starter rebuild, everything was good again. So, if your cables are already proper size, I would suspect the starter may be getting tired and needs a rebuild or replacement. If the cables are small, try replacing with larger cables first. Hopefully you will resolve the problem soon.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:59 PM   #9
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A hot coil can't affect the speed of the starter. The OP said it turns over slowly, not hard to start.
true misread!
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Old 07-20-2020, 08:56 AM   #10
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CLEAN the ground connections. Install a separate ground cable from the frame to the transmission. JMO
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:22 AM   #11
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Bad battery or cables are not the right size like stated. Similar things happen when you use an extension cord of incorrect guage with a big piece of equipment like a lathe or drill press - the full amount of power does not get to the motor thus it is turning at a slower rpm.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:29 AM   #12
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Also try testing the battery. - https://www.harborfreight.com/100a-6...ter-61747.html
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:00 AM   #13
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When the starter bushings wear , it can cause the armature to drag on the field shoes . The bushing on the drive end of the starter will be the first to wear out and cause starter drag .

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Old 07-20-2020, 10:03 AM   #14
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I totally agree with Paul, re: proper grounding. Clean the frame where the ground strap is attached to make sure nothing, including paint is inhibiting proper ground. Of course, proper 6 volt cables are a must.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:09 AM   #15
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As suggested, running an additional ground cable from the from a tranny or bell housing bolt is good insurance of maintaining a good ground. Chap
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:28 AM   #16
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According to the original post, this has happened twice. Out of how many? Twice out of 20 hot starts, 2 out of two? Anyway, I think the two most logical answers are poor ground or starter getting tired. Running a ground strap should be SOP anyway, so I'd get that done then keep an eye on it. It may also be a good idea to use the crank a few times to get a feel for how the engine turns over hot, then when the problem happens again try turning over by crank and see if the engine feels tighter or not.
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:04 PM   #17
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Okay. I’ll try the ground strap first. The current ground is heavy wire, but I doubt that it’s 00 or 1.
To answer the questions about rebuild and number of starts. I’ve put about 50 miles on her since having the head refaced and putting in new, adjustable valves. I have only had her stopped to top off the fuel tank twice and that’s when she was slow to turn over.
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Old 07-20-2020, 04:40 PM   #18
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Perhaps it was not noticeable berfore? Now it has had a valve job compression might be substantially higher.
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Old 07-20-2020, 04:51 PM   #19
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The compression went from high 40’s and low 50’s to 60psi in all cylinders. I can see some difference, but people with high compression heads don’t seem to have problems. When I say “slow turnover”, I should say “barely turns over”.
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Timing could be set too advanced .
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