Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-08-2013, 08:56 AM   #1
sphooch
Senior Member
 
sphooch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 356
Default Replacement shocks -31

HI GUYS ;cannot seem to get any good response to original replacement shocks , I'm reading in the LES ANDREWS book about replacement tube shocks . installation looks OK I know most rebuilds leak after a short time so I'm thinking of buying a set . any and all comments are appreciated . Please let me know pros and cons . THANKS THE HOOCH
sphooch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 09:04 AM   #2
machine girl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 422
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I like the tube shocks, no leaks and they do work.
machine girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 05-08-2013, 09:37 AM   #3
CarlG
Senior Member
 
CarlG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,117
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I am using a kit made by Ken Davis. The shocks themselves are Monroe tube type shocks and I think they are great.
__________________
Alaskan A's
Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska
Model A Ford Club of America
Model A Restorers Club
Antique Automobile Club of America
Mullins Owner's Club
CarlG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 09:42 AM   #4
Rock Hornbuckle
Senior Member
 
Rock Hornbuckle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Noxon Montana
Posts: 532
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I have tube shocks on the '31 for touring, they work just fine, and are much easier to replace when they get weak. I have originals on the '29.
__________________
'31 Fordor Deluxe 2W Briggs 170-B / blackwalls
'41 Fordor Deluxe / 2-duece flattie
'66 1/2 Dodge Charger
'14 100th Anniversary Challenger Limited Edition.

Semper Fidelis

Last edited by Rock Hornbuckle; 05-08-2013 at 12:17 PM.
Rock Hornbuckle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 10:31 AM   #5
sidhartha
Senior Member
 
sidhartha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 157
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I've been looking at this issue for some time. I've found several setups for modern shocks. Most require drilling the front axle or rear crossmember. I like Ken Davis's set but it requires drilling the front axle. Snyder's has a set that clamps to the front and drills the rear crossmember. I do not want to drill any thing on my car. I've found a set that clamps to the front axle and bolts to the rear fenders existing holes, but I'm not sure if that is a good mounting spot. The shocks are gas charged as well. Might make a stiff ride, me thinks. One option is to buy extended front perches and a shock mount that bolts to them from Pete and Jakes.

Last edited by sidhartha; 05-08-2013 at 10:34 AM. Reason: Poor spelling
sidhartha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 11:39 AM   #6
CarlG
Senior Member
 
CarlG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,117
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidhartha View Post
... I like Ken Davis's set but it requires drilling the front axle ...
One of my friends opted to weld the bracket to the front axle, another friend fabricated a clamp to hold it on. The rears are strictly bolt-on. No holes or welding required.
__________________
Alaskan A's
Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska
Model A Ford Club of America
Model A Restorers Club
Antique Automobile Club of America
Mullins Owner's Club

Last edited by CarlG; 05-08-2013 at 12:22 PM. Reason: add info
CarlG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 12:08 PM   #7
sphooch
Senior Member
 
sphooch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 356
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

thanks for the response, looks like I'll give Berts a call . Only 2 holes to drill one on each side of the rear cross member . Later if I feel the need to I'll weld it closed. Thanks again it helps one make up there mind. THE HOOCH
sphooch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 12:11 PM   #8
Nodakwalleyer
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota
Posts: 54
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I seen on Ebay a gentleman from Wisconsin is selling an all bolt on kit for 330.00 with shocks, 220.00 with brackets and hardware only, not sure if any good or not. Item # is 150871510555.
Nodakwalleyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 12:46 PM   #9
Al Bass
Senior Member
 
Al Bass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ferndale, WA
Posts: 107
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

no drilling, cutting, or welding
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2804[2].jpg (42.2 KB, 108 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2805.jpg (34.5 KB, 91 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2806.jpg (41.4 KB, 88 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2811.jpg (59.5 KB, 99 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2812.jpg (37.6 KB, 90 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2814.jpg (28.7 KB, 85 views)
Al Bass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 01:02 PM   #10
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,537
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I personally think Armstrong lever shocks are a MUCH superior alternative to original shocks because they are tunable and they still look somewhat era correct. Plus, they are a direct bolt on without needing to weld brackets onto the frame or axles!! And, to me tube shocks just look out of place.

While I realize that most people that have tube shocks likely have never had the opportunity to experience correctly operating original shocks and therefore base their opinion on just the tube shock operation but for the ones who have experienced both types, we can tell you that tube shocks seem to make most Model-As ride very harsh as they are typically manufactured for applications where the vehicle is 1,000 heavier than the A. Again, a lever shock manufactured for a car of similar weight that has the ability to adjust the ride quality thru viscosity of the fluid and with a needle orifice makes much better sense to me.

.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6264.JPG (55.4 KB, 63 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6266.JPG (54.2 KB, 61 views)
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 01:08 PM   #11
Kahuna
Senior Member
 
Kahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,617
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I agree with Brent. I use the Armstrong/Lovejoy shocks on the front of my 32 B. The original application was rear shocks from an MGB-GT. Paid $ 100 a piece, guaranteed for life. I used tube shocks in the rear.
Kahuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 01:50 PM   #12
Marvin/TN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chattanooga, TN area
Posts: 832
Send a message via AIM to Marvin/TN
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I don't know about for a Model A but Chassis Engineering has a bolt on shock kit for 46 era cars. It does take a non stock spring shackle which has a stud for the lower mount. No holes to drill and no welding. I don't have a catalogue handy and can't get out to the shop to look. Can't wear my prothesis for a few more days and my shop is 300' from the house.
Marvin/TN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 03:51 PM   #13
RHD
Senior Member
 
RHD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 670
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

I still feel you can't go past a good set of original shocks, for ride and appearance.
__________________
R.H.D.
Author of Model 'A' Ford technical manuals.
Supplier of good original RHD parts.
RHD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 04:11 PM   #14
Duffy1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Mo. City , Texas
Posts: 725
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

There was a thread not to long ago comparing the ride stiffnes of different tube shocks when installed on model A.
Duffy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 08:37 PM   #15
sidhartha
Senior Member
 
sidhartha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 157
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodakwalleyer View Post
I seen on Ebay a gentleman from Wisconsin is selling an all bolt on kit for 330.00 with shocks, 220.00 with brackets and hardware only, not sure if any good or not. Item # is 150871510555.
Yes, that is the set that that mounts to the fender bolts. I question if that is a good place to mount them.
sidhartha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2013, 09:01 PM   #16
SteveB31
Senior Member
 
SteveB31's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Englewood, Colorado
Posts: 1,372
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Where does one buy Armstrong lever shocks?
SteveB31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 04:51 AM   #17
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,537
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveB31 View Post
Where does one buy Armstrong lever shocks?
One buys them anywhere that Armstrong shocks are sold!


Ok, sorry Mr. Becker!! Both sets I have purchased have come off of eBay as NOS ones seem to be listed all the time. Since I am not up on British car parts suppliers, a quick Google search revealed several suppliers of remanufactured ones for around $70 a piece with a $30 core charge.

It also appears that when you have them rebuilt, you can specify the valving you prefer. The thing that really makes these neat is the mounting bolt spacing is the same as a stock Model-A. The downside is someone must be able to fabricate a shock link. It isn't hard to do but might be out of the abilities of some who need to be able to 'plug & play' straight out of the box.
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 05:03 AM   #18
Bick in New Zealand
Senior Member
 
Bick in New Zealand's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Napier New Zealand
Posts: 931
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

You are up very late!
__________________
1928 Roadster (CA67)
1931 Deluxe Coupe RHD
1931 Victoria RHD


Model A's don't leak oil they just mark their territory.
Bick in New Zealand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 05:09 AM   #19
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,537
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bick in New Zealand View Post
You are up very late!

Actually, I get up at 5:30 AM and just happened to respond at 10 minutes til 6:00 AM. You're the one that is up late!!
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 05:16 AM   #20
Bick in New Zealand
Senior Member
 
Bick in New Zealand's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Napier New Zealand
Posts: 931
Default Re: Replacement shocks -31

Only 10:15pm here you are still catching up. Have a great day!
__________________
1928 Roadster (CA67)
1931 Deluxe Coupe RHD
1931 Victoria RHD


Model A's don't leak oil they just mark their territory.
Bick in New Zealand is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:49 PM.