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Gino · 07-16-2023, 08:15 PM

Hi, looks like I gotta tackle the rear brakes. I removed the hubs and I noticed a little play in the axle, up and down as well as front to rear. Not much really but is this normal like me? Thanks

Bigsnapper43 · 07-16-2023, 09:12 PM

There is play in the axel if the hub is removed. The play schould be checked before the hub is removed. Shake the tire for loosnes in the bearing, not the axel.

Gino · 07-17-2023, 06:45 AM

Hi, yes, it was the movement of the tire and rim that I noticed when I decided to adjust the brakes. Would it be wise to replace the bearing? Also is there a seal that stops rear end gear oil from leaking into the hub? Thanks

updraught · 07-17-2023, 08:19 AM

Be careful about buying new rear wheel bearings. I haven't heard that the repro ones have improved.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...eel%2Abearings

JayJay · 07-17-2023, 09:37 AM

Just as important is to be sure that your axle housing and hub are not worn, if they are then you will never get rid of that play. Les Andrew’s book gives the tolerances for axle housing OD and hub ID. If the axle housing is worn you need to turn it down and sleeve it, that housing can be asymmetrically worn and indicating it properly in a lathe is not quite straightforward (Brent in TN gave a procedure in a post here several months ago, I can’t seem to find it though). Similarly, if the hub is excessively worn then it needs to be sleeved (I’ve seen hubs worn through the surface treatment), if the hub is worn there are repair kits that you can get from the vendors (https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...6171&cat=41720) that have a sleeve and a smaller corresponding bearing.

Gino · 07-17-2023, 07:42 PM

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Well, thanks everyone. I’ll start buying parts and then the fun begins.
God bless

updraught · 07-17-2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJay

... Similarly, if the hub is excessively worn then it needs to be sleeved (I’ve seen hubs worn through the surface treatment), if the hub is worn there are repair kits that you can get from the vendors (https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...6171&cat=41720) that have a sleeve and a smaller corresponding bearing.

That uses the smaller V8 bearing and I haven't heard that they are much good either??
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...eel%2Abearings

Bob Bidonde · 07-20-2023, 09:21 AM

Here is how the rear axle is supported:

Synchro909 · 07-21-2023, 09:29 PM

I do a conversion for the rear bearings using 3 modern NU1010 roller bearings on each side. It has proved to be bullet proof but you guys are restricted to expensive brands of bearings. Mine cost only a few dollars each and are of good quality.
There is a bit of machining involved but once that is done, you'll never need to touch it again. Mine has done a 7,000 mile trip under HEAVY loads towing a camper.

07-16-2023, 08:15 PM	#1
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Brake Time Hi, looks like I gotta tackle the rear brakes. I removed the hubs and I noticed a little play in the axle, up and down as well as front to rear. Not much really but is this normal like me? Thanks

07-16-2023, 09:12 PM	#2
Bigsnapper43 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 84	Re: Brake Time There is play in the axel if the hub is removed. The play schould be checked before the hub is removed. Shake the tire for loosnes in the bearing, not the axel.

07-17-2023, 06:45 AM	#3
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Re: Brake Time Hi, yes, it was the movement of the tire and rim that I noticed when I decided to adjust the brakes. Would it be wise to replace the bearing? Also is there a seal that stops rear end gear oil from leaking into the hub? Thanks

07-17-2023, 08:19 AM	#4
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	Re: Brake Time Be careful about buying new rear wheel bearings. I haven't heard that the repro ones have improved. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...eel%2Abearings

07-17-2023, 09:37 AM	#5
JayJay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,077	Re: Brake Time Just as important is to be sure that your axle housing and hub are not worn, if they are then you will never get rid of that play. Les Andrew’s book gives the tolerances for axle housing OD and hub ID. If the axle housing is worn you need to turn it down and sleeve it, that housing can be asymmetrically worn and indicating it properly in a lathe is not quite straightforward (Brent in TN gave a procedure in a post here several months ago, I can’t seem to find it though). Similarly, if the hub is excessively worn then it needs to be sleeved (I’ve seen hubs worn through the surface treatment), if the hub is worn there are repair kits that you can get from the vendors (https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...6171&cat=41720) that have a sleeve and a smaller corresponding bearing. __________________ JayJay San Francisco Bay Area ------------------------ 1930 Murray Town Sedan 1931 Briggs S/W Town Sedan Last edited by JayJay; 07-17-2023 at 09:49 AM.

07-17-2023, 07:42 PM	#6
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Re: Brake Time Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Well, thanks everyone. I’ll start buying parts and then the fun begins. God bless

07-21-2023, 09:29 PM	#9
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Brake Time I do a conversion for the rear bearings using 3 modern NU1010 roller bearings on each side. It has proved to be bullet proof but you guys are restricted to expensive brands of bearings. Mine cost only a few dollars each and are of good quality. There is a bit of machining involved but once that is done, you'll never need to touch it again. Mine has done a 7,000 mile trip under HEAVY loads towing a camper. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.