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nathanmac · 11-01-2011, 07:41 AM

Just been doing a bit of searching and reading on the net tonight, and got to thinking I've never seen pics of a '41 pickup with a 6 cylinder installed. For curiosities sake does anyone have any photos or links to photos online? They must have made some seeing as the crossmember and radiator supports were changed in 41 to accomodate them??? Anyone got any ideas of how many left the factory with the 6?

I've seen pictures of a few 4 cylinder 40-41 pickups, but the only 6's I can find are Jailbar and later. Just wondering how everything fits up in the 41's - radiator etc. Also got a strange hankering to have a play with one and see how they run..... but thatll have to wait for another project in the future.

Cheers.

alanwoodieman · 11-01-2011, 08:32 AM

from what I can find-especially on the big trucks-the six was made for export and the military. You may have a better chance to finding one than a stateside V8'er. These were a mid year change, I have a late production 41 truck with the dropped front crossmember to accomadate a 6 cylinder

Roger/Sacramento · 11-01-2011, 02:47 PM

When I got my '41 pickup it was in parts and had a mustang 2 already nstalled. My plan was to install a flathead so I had motor mounts welded in to fit. I had looked at several finished '40 pickups and didn't understand why the radiator mount and the hood and grille configuration was different than mine. Finally somebody told me that my vehicle was a six cylinder originally. That cleared things up for me. Because of the extended length of the six motor it caused the radiator,etc. to move forward. Just another example of not knowing what I don't know.

ken ct · 11-01-2011, 02:57 PM

They were a good strong motor and would beat aV8 off the line to about 40mph and were very reliable. OMO. ken ct.

Ken Crans · 11-01-2011, 04:12 PM

If you think that is rare, I also hear that some had a column shifter. Ken

burly · 11-01-2011, 04:28 PM

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I have one but unfortunately no pictures. Drove it ocassionally after getting it running but she was getting pretty tired. Bought a good running 46 six cylinder a few years ago "cheap" but I think there may be some differences? Prehaps someone more knowlegible than myself might chime in.

oldford2 · 11-01-2011, 04:36 PM

I think that Ford offered the 1941 pickup in 4, 6, and v8 options. The only year they did this.
Any experts out there that can confirm this?
John

ken ct · 11-01-2011, 05:27 PM

Right as far as i know John. ken ct.

alanwoodieman · 11-01-2011, 05:28 PM

actually 2 V8's 85hp and 95hp

nathanmac · 11-01-2011, 07:04 PM

Thanks for the replies. So there can't have been too many made? I don't know of any out here in NZ that had the 6 cylinder, and the only vehicles I know of (in my very limited experience) have been big trucks later than '42. When I was a kid there was an old '47 firetruck a couple of blocks away that had it's 6 cylinder motor exposed to the weather and for all to see, but I think that went to the scrap metal man years ago.

My pickup and the other 41's I know of all have (or originally had) the deeper crossmember and longer radiator supports to accomodate the longer motor, but are all V8's. Doesn't appear to be an issue with the 42-47 pickups as the front of the chassis is quite different so I'm guessing the 6 cylinder was basically mounted the same from 41 through? Might ask around locally and see if there are any survivors here in any vehicles.

Bob G/Spanaway · 11-01-2011, 08:37 PM

I had a '42 6 cyl PU from about '60 to '66.
I drove the hell out of that poor old truck and it never let me down.
I swapped it for a car and lost track of it.
Good truck.

V12Bill · 11-02-2011, 05:04 PM

The 1941 pickup had the same frame as the 40 car and pickup, but in 1941 the car frame was new. This may have some bearing as to why 6 cylinder engines were so rare.

41panelmark · 11-02-2011, 09:53 PM

Try to find a copy of Howard Towne's "Two Great Trucks" Lots of good information there. Yes the 6's are hard to find.

nathanmac · 11-03-2011, 10:28 PM

Hi, yes I've briefly seen a copy of that book with some great old photos showing up some fo the differences between the two years.

Still looking for photos of any of these - they must have been a rare beast from day one by the sounds of it?

I had a call from a guy here in NZ that has a marinised 6 that was apparently hardly ever run before it was changed over for a V8. Sounds to me like a good excuse to find a car to put it in....!

11-01-2011, 07:41 AM	#1
nathanmac Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Invercargill, New Zealand Posts: 93	1941 pickup 6 cylinder Just been doing a bit of searching and reading on the net tonight, and got to thinking I've never seen pics of a '41 pickup with a 6 cylinder installed. For curiosities sake does anyone have any photos or links to photos online? They must have made some seeing as the crossmember and radiator supports were changed in 41 to accomodate them??? Anyone got any ideas of how many left the factory with the 6? I've seen pictures of a few 4 cylinder 40-41 pickups, but the only 6's I can find are Jailbar and later. Just wondering how everything fits up in the 41's - radiator etc. Also got a strange hankering to have a play with one and see how they run..... but thatll have to wait for another project in the future. Cheers.

11-01-2011, 08:32 AM	#2
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,964	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder from what I can find-especially on the big trucks-the six was made for export and the military. You may have a better chance to finding one than a stateside V8'er. These were a mid year change, I have a late production 41 truck with the dropped front crossmember to accomadate a 6 cylinder

11-01-2011, 02:47 PM	#3
Roger/Sacramento Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PRINEVILLE, OR. Posts: 490	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder When I got my '41 pickup it was in parts and had a mustang 2 already nstalled. My plan was to install a flathead so I had motor mounts welded in to fit. I had looked at several finished '40 pickups and didn't understand why the radiator mount and the hood and grille configuration was different than mine. Finally somebody told me that my vehicle was a six cylinder originally. That cleared things up for me. Because of the extended length of the six motor it caused the radiator,etc. to move forward. Just another example of not knowing what I don't know. __________________ KIM KARDASHIAN ISN'T FLAT, BUT MY MOTOR IS..... http://s818.photobucket.com/home/roglehr/index

11-01-2011, 02:57 PM	#4
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder They were a good strong motor and would beat aV8 off the line to about 40mph and were very reliable. OMO. ken ct.

11-01-2011, 04:12 PM	#5
Ken Crans Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Highland,MI Posts: 1,196	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder If you think that is rare, I also hear that some had a column shifter. Ken

11-01-2011, 04:28 PM	#6
burly Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bowling Green, Ky. Posts: 228	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have one but unfortunately no pictures. Drove it ocassionally after getting it running but she was getting pretty tired. Bought a good running 46 six cylinder a few years ago "cheap" but I think there may be some differences? Prehaps someone more knowlegible than myself might chime in.

11-01-2011, 04:36 PM	#7
oldford2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: pittsfield, MA Posts: 2,086	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder I think that Ford offered the 1941 pickup in 4, 6, and v8 options. The only year they did this. Any experts out there that can confirm this? John

11-01-2011, 05:27 PM	#8
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder Right as far as i know John. ken ct.

11-01-2011, 05:28 PM	#9
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,964	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder actually 2 V8's 85hp and 95hp

11-01-2011, 07:04 PM	#10
nathanmac Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Invercargill, New Zealand Posts: 93	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder Thanks for the replies. So there can't have been too many made? I don't know of any out here in NZ that had the 6 cylinder, and the only vehicles I know of (in my very limited experience) have been big trucks later than '42. When I was a kid there was an old '47 firetruck a couple of blocks away that had it's 6 cylinder motor exposed to the weather and for all to see, but I think that went to the scrap metal man years ago. My pickup and the other 41's I know of all have (or originally had) the deeper crossmember and longer radiator supports to accomodate the longer motor, but are all V8's. Doesn't appear to be an issue with the 42-47 pickups as the front of the chassis is quite different so I'm guessing the 6 cylinder was basically mounted the same from 41 through? Might ask around locally and see if there are any survivors here in any vehicles.

11-01-2011, 08:37 PM	#11
Bob G/Spanaway Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 344	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder I had a '42 6 cyl PU from about '60 to '66. I drove the hell out of that poor old truck and it never let me down. I swapped it for a car and lost track of it. Good truck.

11-02-2011, 05:04 PM	#12
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder The 1941 pickup had the same frame as the 40 car and pickup, but in 1941 the car frame was new. This may have some bearing as to why 6 cylinder engines were so rare.

11-02-2011, 09:53 PM	#13
41panelmark Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,264	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder Try to find a copy of Howard Towne's "Two Great Trucks" Lots of good information there. Yes the 6's are hard to find.

11-03-2011, 10:28 PM	#14
nathanmac Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Invercargill, New Zealand Posts: 93	Re: 1941 pickup 6 cylinder Hi, yes I've briefly seen a copy of that book with some great old photos showing up some fo the differences between the two years. Still looking for photos of any of these - they must have been a rare beast from day one by the sounds of it? I had a call from a guy here in NZ that has a marinised 6 that was apparently hardly ever run before it was changed over for a V8. Sounds to me like a good excuse to find a car to put it in....!