The Ford Barn

GB SISSON · 01-29-2022, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by koates

GB, Yes all the early Ford V8 solenoids require the small terminal to be grounded through the starter button to the metal on the dash panel. Yours is correct for a Ford V8. There are many other types of wiring hook up solenoid types with different terminals. Regards, Kevin.

It came from a drawer I have labled 'battery terms'. I could have bought it 30 years ago. With regard to electricity, every now and then I get something right. Thank you.

cas3 · 01-30-2022, 12:43 AM

Just remember, after the smoke escapes, the part in question won't work anymore

V8COOPMAN · 01-30-2022, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3

Just remember, after the smoke escapes, the part in question won't work anymore

Yeah, but that is why they make this "Refill Smoke", so you can re-use burnt-up stuff. DD

Tim Ayers · 01-30-2022, 07:21 AM

Standard part # SS558. You can get them at Rock Auto

48fordnut · 01-30-2022, 09:04 AM

Thanks for all the comments.

Coopman, I had to steal your pic to go with my blinker fluid pic.

Thanks,

jim

tubman · 01-30-2022, 09:23 AM

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The example DD shows is the best brand, as well. Don't go with the cheap "Delco" stuff.

48fordnut · 01-30-2022, 09:50 AM

This board almost makes you want to get up in the mornings.

This application is for a model a speedster. I want to do away with the floor push starter.

Thanks,

jim

GB SISSON · 01-30-2022, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Yeah, but that is why they make this "Refill Smoke", so you can re-use burnt-up stuff.

Now that's good! Wasn't it Lucas that developed intermittent headlights?

tubman · 01-30-2022, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Now that's good! Wasn't it Lucas that developed intermittent headlights?

Yep. They also developed the pre-blown fuse.

V8COOPMAN · 01-30-2022, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman

Yep. They also developed the pre-blown fuse.

Lucas was known as "The Prince of Darkness". For a list of ALL of his accomplishments, click the link BELOW! DD

https://www.hermit.cc/tmc/humor/lucas.htm

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GB SISSON · 01-30-2022, 03:20 PM

In keeping with the OPs question, I guess we can all agree "Just don't buy a lucas solenoid". Today's lesson in auto electrics class. Thanks DD

48fordnut · 01-30-2022, 05:32 PM

What a lesson.

Thanks,

jim

koates · 01-30-2022, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON

In keeping with the OPs question, I guess we can all agree "Just don't buy a lucas solenoid". Today's lesson in auto electrics class. Thanks DD

No, we cant all agree. Nothing wrong with Lucas solenoids. Its the China ones to be beware of. Regards, Kevin.

48fordnut · 01-30-2022, 11:47 PM

I saw where someone had mounted a solenoid on top of a model a starter and attached the terminal with a bus bar.

GB SISSON · 01-31-2022, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by koates

No, we cant all agree. Nothing wrong with Lucas solenoids. Its the China ones to be beware of. Regards, Kevin.

OK, point well taken. Lord help us if we ever made fun of the Chinese and their auto parts. Why do the Chinese drive a.......?

Tinker · 01-31-2022, 12:15 AM

Well not to be the bummer guy, but the minute we stop buying everything from china is the first time we can complain about it. They make a ton of stuff for us, as they have cheap labor and don't care about their environment (well or their people). But we buy it!

Going to wally world tomorrow.

You could probably find an old original if you put an add here or look on ebay. They rarely ever go bad and are not rare.

Y-Blockhead · 01-31-2022, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 48fordnut

I saw where someone had mounted a solenoid on top of a model a starter and attached the terminal with a bus bar.

That was actually an accessory you could buy back when, made by Wells. Remove foot starter switch and screw onto starter.

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Originally Posted by cas3

Just remember, after the smoke escapes, the part in question won't work anymore

For our Model As we use Genuine Ford Replacement Smoke made specifically for Model As, but it may work in later Fords also That have cloth covered wires.

cas3 · 01-31-2022, 12:41 AM

Cool !!

Tinker · 01-31-2022, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by drolston

One of the handiest tools around my garage is the remote starter button, which clips to the terminals of the starter solenoid. Like to chank the engine while checking for a spark from coil or plug wire. Or running a compression test. Or testing for fuel pump output. Better than the solenoid with a button, because you can activate it from any place around the front end.

I got one when I had a yblock on a run stand. Nice little slick tool. As I mentioned previously you can actually do this with a screwdriver too. Just kind of crude.

Big Red 51 · 02-03-2022, 06:58 AM

From my earlier thread; RE the Echlin ST-58 NAPA gave me that would not work on my '49 Ford positive ground PU which as I know, requires the ST-53. If solenoids are not polarity sensitive, then the New Asian made Eichlin solenoid ST-58 must of been just faulty. Only difference I could tell was the ST-58 had a bakealite case and the 53 a metal case from Mexico. An interesting thread in any event. Don

01-30-2022, 12:43 AM	#22
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: solenoid with start button Just remember, after the smoke escapes, the part in question won't work anymore

01-30-2022, 07:21 AM	#24
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,181	Re: solenoid with start button Standard part # SS558. You can get them at Rock Auto

01-30-2022, 09:04 AM	#25
48fordnut Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: warner robins ga 31088 Posts: 494	Re: solenoid with start button Thanks for all the comments. Coopman, I had to steal your pic to go with my blinker fluid pic. Thanks, jim

01-30-2022, 09:23 AM	#26
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,320	Re: solenoid with start button Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The example DD shows is the best brand, as well. Don't go with the cheap "Delco" stuff.

01-30-2022, 09:50 AM	#27
48fordnut Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: warner robins ga 31088 Posts: 494	Re: solenoid with start button This board almost makes you want to get up in the mornings. This application is for a model a speedster. I want to do away with the floor push starter. Thanks, jim

01-30-2022, 03:20 PM	#31
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,940	Re: solenoid with start button In keeping with the OPs question, I guess we can all agree "Just don't buy a lucas solenoid". Today's lesson in auto electrics class. Thanks DD __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

01-30-2022, 05:32 PM	#32
48fordnut Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: warner robins ga 31088 Posts: 494	Re: solenoid with start button What a lesson. Thanks, jim

01-30-2022, 11:47 PM	#34
48fordnut Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: warner robins ga 31088 Posts: 494	Re: solenoid with start button I saw where someone had mounted a solenoid on top of a model a starter and attached the terminal with a bus bar.

01-31-2022, 12:15 AM	#36
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: solenoid with start button Well not to be the bummer guy, but the minute we stop buying everything from china is the first time we can complain about it. They make a ton of stuff for us, as they have cheap labor and don't care about their environment (well or their people). But we buy it! Going to wally world tomorrow. You could probably find an old original if you put an add here or look on ebay. They rarely ever go bad and are not rare.

01-31-2022, 12:41 AM	#38
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: solenoid with start button Cool !!

02-03-2022, 06:58 AM	#40
Big Red 51 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 131	Re: solenoid with start button From my earlier thread; RE the Echlin ST-58 NAPA gave me that would not work on my '49 Ford positive ground PU which as I know, requires the ST-53. If solenoids are not polarity sensitive, then the New Asian made Eichlin solenoid ST-58 must of been just faulty. Only difference I could tell was the ST-58 had a bakealite case and the 53 a metal case from Mexico. An interesting thread in any event. Don