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Old 01-27-2023, 10:39 AM   #21
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Default Re: King Pin not matting with brake shaft housing – 1932 Ford

I agree with Sheldon, something remains amiss. Either the king pins are switched or they aren't the right king pins.
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:44 AM   #22
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The axle is bent..... This helps to explain the bent left front frame horn and a few other things about the frame...
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:47 AM   #23
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I should say.. the bent right front frame horn
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Old 01-27-2023, 11:17 AM   #24
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Shame on us for assuming that the axle was straight and not asking that as a first question and shame on you for not noticing it earlier.
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Old 01-27-2023, 11:28 AM   #25
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The axle is bent..... This helps to explain the bent left front frame horn and a few other things about the frame...
I'll say. Jeez.
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Old 01-27-2023, 12:41 PM   #26
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Is it a Genuine 32 Axle or a repo .?
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Old 01-27-2023, 02:41 PM   #28
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In general, the condition, wear and tear seem to be consistent with the rest of the car, so I believe it is genuine. To be on the safe side I've replaced just about everything that I can with new - bearings, shims, king pins, perches, bushings, etc. Interestingly enough the tie rod is straight. I've located another front axle - that is straight.
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The axles are relatively soft ( for staughtning purposes )so you bend them with a chain and a porter power .
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In general, the condition, wear and tear seem to be consistent with the rest of the car, so I believe it is genuine. To be on the safe side I've replaced just about everything that I can with new - bearings, shims, king pins, perches, bushings, etc. Interestingly enough the tie rod is straight. I've located another front axle - that is straight.
A quick, "field test" way to tell if it is straight is to flip it over on it's "back" so it is making a frown and not a smile and then stand it up on the ground. If straight, it will balance upright on it's own. If bent, it will not.

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Old 01-27-2023, 05:07 PM   #31
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Repro '32 front axles? No such animal. And no non-"heavy" ones either!
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Old 01-27-2023, 10:57 PM   #32
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Repro '32 front axles? No such animal. And no non-"heavy" ones either!
Pete & Jakes make a repop deuce axle, part number 1098 B.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/paj-1098b
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Finished straightening out the front axle and corrected the camber. Test fitting all the parts. Still need to make a few replacements (shackles, etc). First two pictures are before, and the last three are after.
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Pete & Jakes make a repop deuce axle, part number 1098 B.

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To be fair, that is a drop axle. I don't beleive it is a reproduction of stock Ford specifications. I could be wrong....
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To be fair, that is a drop axle. I don't beleive it is a reproduction of stock Ford specifications. I could be wrong....
That's not dropped. That is stock height '32 "drop"
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Finished straightening out the front axle and corrected the camber. Test fitting all the parts. Still need to make a few replacements (shackles, etc). First two pictures are before, and the last three are after.




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You need your thrust bearings in place to have the height right. It looks a lot better than it was, though.
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Old 03-15-2024, 09:59 PM   #38
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Without paint on them as in your photo, they should fit as shown in Sheldon's photos. With paint, it can be a very snug fit, but no misalignment or gaps.


Best guess? Wrong king pins.
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Old 03-15-2024, 11:26 PM   #39
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Sorry for the lack of information...... and as always thanks for your comments and guidance.
You are correct. I need to add the thrust bearings, shims, locking pins, and use correct bolt for the leaf spring, as well as the clamps that keep the leafs aligned.
The spindles have been honed. All races, bushings and bearings have been replaced. The hubs have been turned and the brake pads have been replaced. All wheel hub lug studs have been replaced. Note the front lug studs are shorter than the rear. Yes, I replaced the rear as well. The king pins are not seated all the way down and the thrust bearings have not been installed, giving the appearance they are wrong size.
I was just happy that I managed to straighten the axel. It was not only bent backwards by 2”, but also twisted (front to back - on the passenger side and back to front - driver side) and finally the camber was off on both sides. Now, it is straight, with the correct camber on both sides and is no longer twisted. It will stay upright when on its back.
Everything will be dissembled and then primed (sanded, etc) and painted. The front leaf spring will be dissembled, primed and graphite added between the leaves and then re-assembled and painted.

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Old 03-16-2024, 01:31 AM   #40
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Tim,


All '32-'34 passenger car and commercial car front brake actuaters are the same (one right, one left, once assembled). Un-assembled, the housings are the same, right and left. The '35-36 versions are very noticeably shorter by about two inches and the BB versions are much heftier.

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