28 Broadlace trim

[Tinbasher]

Can anyone tell me when the "Broadlace" trim was deleted in 28. This is the piece of material that went along the top of the door trim panel.

I've gone through the Judging Standards and can't find anything. I've seen the info somewhere but I can't remember where it was.

I'm working on a 28 Sport Coupe. Production date Oct. 28. I can't read the day as it worn away.

Thanks: The Old Tinbasher.

[Bud]

I think you are combining the terms "broadcloth" and "windlace".

[Gary Karr]

The broadlace trim was used on Coupes, Sport Coupes, Tudors, and Business Coupes with cloth interiors in 1928 and not used in the 1929 models.
The RG&JS does indicate that Canadian Sport Coupes also had the broadlace trim on the door panels.

[uzno]

March 29 Business Coupe with Grey interior White stripe had Broadlace on door

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Guys, So now I need to find out what the Broadlace looked like. JP

[Tacoma Bob]

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Page 97 of the Ford Model "A" as Henry built it shows what you are looking for. It was known as an interior belt molding.

[Gary Karr]

Here's the broadlace trim on my VE-28 Coupe. It is very close to original. If your interior will be in the brown tones, your broadlace trim would also be in brown.

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Gary. This gives me an idea of what I'm looking for. JP

[WHN]

Originally Posted by Gary Karr

Here's the broadlace trim on my VE-28 Coupe. It is very close to original. If your interior will be in the brown tones, your broadlace trim would also be in brown.

I like the colors. Would love to see more pictures of your interior. Very nice.

Enjoy.

[Bick in New Zealand]

Here are some shots of an original Canadian produced Sport Coupe here in NZ. CA88105 Body No: F807

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Bob, I have that book so I'll take a look. JP

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Bick. Yes that's it. I have a sample for the door panel and it's the same as what is in your pictures. Excellent. So that's the trim I'm looking for. Another step closer. JP

[Jim Mason]

Coachlace , windlace, seat piping, carpet binding.
Nothing available retail that comes close. You'll have to have them made.

[Bick in New Zealand]

Hey Jim, do you have a larger version of your picture, as it is hard to see any detail?

Cheers

[Jim Mason]

Originally Posted by Bick in New Zealand

Hey Jim, do you have a larger version of your picture, as it is hard to see any detail?

Cheers

Not that will load here. Size restrictions.

[Jim Mason]

Bick,
Resend your email and I'll send a file

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Jim and Bick. Great info. Isn't it amazing what you can find out now with the internet. In a matter of days or hours. Compaired to the days when we would make phone calls and write letters to find something out. I remember working in a restoration shop in the 70's and taking 6 months to find a part or information.

JP

[moasew]

Ok I also have a June 28 Tudor which uses this trim. I believe it is officially referred to as "coachlace" .Some will tell you it is the windlace flattened out but this isn't the case in my 28. I can't believe Lebaron Bonney or those with "stamped " versions of this trim didn't have it stamped closer to the original.
So to agree with one of the responders here it does have to be weaved.
I was speaking to Thistle Hill Weavers in Cherry Valley New York. The colors according to them were Pearl White, Black Pearl ,Lavender and Black. They were going to weave it for 500 but said they would lose money at it . Then I 'm supposed to have SMS Auto Fabrics in Oregon do it for 150 but so far they haven't produced it and it will be awhile yet. Let me know if you find a credible weaver to do this.

I've attached a photo of the sample from behind my panels so the color is as close to original as you can get. I also attached a photo of the coachlace on the panel. The coachlace sits just above the edge of the bedford cord on the panel.

[moasew]

For some reason my photo of my coachlace on the original Bedford Cord didn't upload so here it is.

[Tinbasher]

Thanks Guys this is amazing info. JP

[700rpm]

I have always liked that little extra touch on the ‘28 interiors, and regret that it wasn’t available for my ‘29s. LeBaron Bonney used to offer it. I wonder if there is any stock left from their bankruptcy and sale. Anybody know who bought them out?

[moasew]

As I mentioned Lebaron Bonney offered coachlace trim but it was stamped as opposed to a weaved manufacture. Where they derived their pattern from was beyond me as it doesn't do the original any justice. I'm waiting for SMS to make mine. I agree it adds a nice touch.

I was told by a weaving company that looked very close at the sample (taken from behind my side panels) I sent them that the colors included pearl white, black pearl and lavender black.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by moasew

As I mentioned Lebaron Bonney offered coachlace trim but it was stamped as opposed to a weaved manufacture.

I have several remnants left of L/B's coachlace and windlace that I just looked at. When you say that their product was stamped, are you saying it was molded, -or the pattern was dyed into the fabric after it was loomed?

[Jim Mason]

Any of the LB coachlace I've seen isn'teven close.

[Tinbasher]

All good info. Thanks again.

[moasew]

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I finally received my new coachlace trim this month and had it installed a few days later. You can get original patterns made but boy does it take patience and you have to be persistent and know what you're looking for.

It took me 7 yrs of looking and waiting and looking again and then being persistent to get the coachlace and sourcing out the original interior patterns.

I've attached photos of coachlace (IT is NOT the windlace as many will tell you).

Even the company that made it still insist calling it windlace to the last contact !! I don't get it. They even made it so it could be used as windlace....GEEEE !

I also attached some photos of my new carpet. I still had the original rear carpet (with the leather strip for the rear of the front seat to rest on )

Enjoy ! FYI SMS Auto fabrics was the company I received all my interior material from .

[Tinbasher]

Excellent Pictures Thanks. JP

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by moasew

I finally received my new coachlace trim this month and had it installed a few days later. You can get original patterns made but boy does it take patience and you have to be persistent and know what you're looking for.

It took me 7 yrs of looking and waiting and looking again and then being persistent to get the coachlace and sourcing out the original interior patterns.

I've attached photos of coachlace (IT is NOT the windlace as many will tell you).

Even the company that made it still insist calling it windlace to the last contact !! I don't get it. They even made it so it could be used as windlace....GEEEE !

I also attached some photos of my new carpet. I still had the original rear carpet (with the leather strip for the rear of the front seat to rest on )

Enjoy ! FYI SMS Auto fabrics was the company I received all my interior material from .

That really does look very nice. Congrats to you on achieving this.