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Old 05-24-2020, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Upper door seals for Murray town sedan

I am trying to figure out if the 1930 Murray Town Sedan used upper door seals. If so, where do they attach too?
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:09 PM   #2
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Don't know about the '30, but on my '31 I glued glued them in, holding them up with the window, then put in the side rails.
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Default Re: Upper door seals for Murray town sedan

Seals were not used atop the doors. Inside the car, a wind-lace molding was used to seal the vertical gaps and gaps along the tops of the doors against drafts. The bottoms of the doors have a rubber seal.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:20 PM   #4
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What sealed the lower window opening to the glass or did water just run down the pane and I to the door?
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:42 PM   #5
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I think it is these you are looking for?

The Murray Body uses these for all four doors. The Briggs uses two for front doors only.
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/P...earchByKeyword

The Briggs uses these for the rear doors. I included them for the picture so you could see what they look like. The front ones look the same but longer.
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/P...L-4-DOOR-FRONT

They attach with screws to the door. You will have to remove the glass to install.
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My mistake, was thinking of the window seals, it's hell getting old.
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Old 05-24-2020, 01:55 PM   #7
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Yes I have these, does anyone have a picture of them installed. My doors do not have a wood strip below the window opening to screw to. My wood crosspiece is lower towards the middle of the door
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Here is a picture of my Briggs Town Sedan left rear door. Your Murray should be same (or similar). You will have to remove the glass and bracing to get to it.

Fronts same deal.

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Old 05-24-2020, 03:21 PM   #9
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Here is a picture of my Murray door and I do not have the wood piece below window opening to attach the metal strip of the seal
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Hmmm, maybe someone else will chime in. I'm not that familiar with the Murray bodies.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:06 PM   #11
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Anyone have a picture of Murray Door without the door panel on?
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Old 10-28-2020, 03:11 AM   #12
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Default Re: Upper door seals for Murray town sedan

We own a Murrays, too. And our car misses the upper door seals as well. I juts bought them at Snyders and plan to install them next winter time.



But up to now, in the last 6 years of ownership I only removed the front door panels due to smaller repairs. The front door wood looks similar to the Briggs picture above. And the rear doors i did not open yet, but I can see the top wood under the window frame similar to the front doors. So you are missing one piece of wood, probably.


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Old 10-28-2020, 03:13 AM   #13
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If you want, I can post my opened passenger front door pictures
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Old 10-28-2020, 03:20 AM   #14
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Oh sorry...I just went to my car and saw that you are right. Situation same as yours, wood is only inside the glass.

How to assemble the upper door seal is a good question.
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Default Re: Upper door seals for Murray town sedan

Murray 4 doors were like slant 4 doors in this area. The seal is the lip on the rubber that holds the glass in the lower metal channel. Briggs cars used what is pictured earlier in this thread for all 4 doors. These two body companies tackled this in very different ways.
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Old 10-29-2020, 05:17 PM   #16
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You are correct about the lip, I finally sourced some correct window riser channels with the lip. They seal the window against the door very nice.
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