Please help me Re: Flathead Heads Mystery

[19Fordy]

Bought this flatty today. Seller said his dad ran it in a 40 Ford years ago hauling moonshine in Georgia. The 40 got wrecked but they saved the engine and stored it. It is suppose to be a 40 Ford engine but it has a 48 Ford dist. The bellhousing has 59 cast into it. I am mystified by the aluminum heads as I have never seen a pair like these before. The following is cast on the head: SCHRAGER AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING CO. LOS ANGELES S.A.E
FIRING ORDER 15486372 I would like to know more about these heads and the history of SCHRAGER AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING. Any knowledge you can share is much appreciated. Thanks.

[Jason in TX]

I did a quick Google Search and other people are basically trying to also find out info.

The SAE stands for SCHRAGER AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING though...

[flatjack9]

I saw a set at the Detroit Autorama, but don't know anything about them.

[Joe AZ]

Nice find.........what kind of intake does it have?

[19Fordy]

Originally Posted by Joe AZ

Nice find.........what kind of intake does it have?

Edmunds intake

[19Fordy]

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Originally Posted by flatjack9

I saw a set at the Detroit Autorama, but don't know anything about them.

Thanks. Please let me know if you find out anything about them. I wonder if any of the old Rod and Custom "little pages" would have any adds in them?

[34fivewindow]

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Bought this flatty today. Seller said his dad ran it in a 40 Ford years ago hauling moonshine in Georgia. The 40 got wrecked but they saved the engine and stored it. It is suppose to be a 40 Ford engine but it has a 48 Ford dist. The bellhousing has 59 cast into it. I am mystified by the aluminum heads as I have never seen a pair like these before. The following is cast on the head: SCHRAGER AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING CO. LOS ANGELES S.A.E
FIRING ORDER 15486372 I would like to know more about these heads and the history of SCHRAGER AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING. Any knowledge you can share is much appreciated. Thanks.

I can tell you that this company, only made one intake for the flathead V8, it was a 2X2 manifold.....Ed

[19Fordy]

Originally Posted by 34fivewindow

I can tell you that this company, only made one intake for the flathead V8, it was a 2X2 manifold.....Ed

Thank you. That's a good start. Wonder if they ever had a catalog and how long they were in business. What years.

[Ol' Ron]

Be nice to see what the combustion chamber looked like..

[34fivewindow]

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

Be nice to see what the combustion chamber looked like..

Ol' Ron
Have you had a chance to check out the combustion chambers, on a Fenton cylinder head? If so what do you think?...Ed

[Jason M.]

That is a 1940 fan set up, but you probably know that judging by your user name. Jason...

[flatjack9]

Originally Posted by 34fivewindow

I can tell you that this company, only made one intake for the flathead V8, it was a 2X2 manifold.....Ed

And they made them for both the 59 and 8BA engines.

[Ol' Ron]

At one time I rebuilt alott of heads including Fentons, but I can't remember anything out of the ordinary. Most heads have a shallow transfer area to increase CR. The Edmonds have a relocated spark plug, which will allow a power tip plug. I believe this to be beneficial with today's gas, leaner fuel mixtures and new ignition curves. While I'm at it I might as well put my foot in it. For a street application I don't think it makes much difference what cylinder head you use, Just keep it tight and watch the CR. For racing that's a different matter. The reap pros keep this to themselves and I've seen some real wild chambers, however the best commercial head I've seen id the Flatattack. unfortunately this has to be modified somewhat to take advantage fo it flow characteristics.

[Flatout]

The heads are made from the patterns formerly used by Tommy Thickstun for his brand of heads. In between they were modified to make Tattersfield heads. The same history is true for the intakes.
stn

[19Fordy]

Originally Posted by Flatout

The heads are made from the patterns formerly used by Tommy Thickstun for his brand of heads. In between they were modified to make Tattersfield heads. The same history is true for the intakes.
stn

Flatout, Thanks for that info. Very interesting.I am not trying to be a "smarty pants" or doubt you, but am curious. How did you know that? I sure would like to find out more history if possible. Thanks, JIM

[Flatout]

I'm a flathead speed parts collecter and amatuer historian. People like Mark Dees have written speed parts history's published in the V8 times and Rod and Custom.
Stan

[19Fordy]

Originally Posted by Flatout

I'm a flathead speed parts collecter and amatuer historian. People like Mark Dees have written speed parts history's published in the V8 times and Rod and Custom.
Stan

Thank you. Hope I can find out what they are worth as I think the owner may sell them.