Has anyone every used or heard anything about this thermostat goose neck

[msmaron]

Came across this product and was wondering if anyone used one and heard anything about them

http://vintageprecision.com/index.html

[EHERRICK]

Several here in our club. Very clean and easy installation. I would recomend.

[Pat Martone]

I use this product; it is well engineered.
I use one of the bosses for a water temperature gauge.

[MikeK]

Why don't you make a list of plusses and minuses? I'll start:

1. (-) You haven't fixed your bulb socket problem yet! (- - - - - - -)
2. (+) By pulling the four bolts, you can leave the rad. hose attached at both ends if you have to change head gaskets or something. I hate wrestling a hose with an in-line 'stat into place.
3. (-) Ugly, as in non-stock.
4. (+) Permits quick easy 'stat change. (order & carry a spare new O-ring)
5. (-) May encourage you to attach things to those two plugged ports.
6. (+) Made in USA, not a Vintique P.O.S. (++++++++++++++++++++)
7. OK, your turn. . .

[CarlG]

I have one in my PU. Makes changing out the thermostat a snap. And as Pat said (Post #3) I use one of the bosses for a temp gauge, and I am going to use the other one for a hot water heater. Mike's plusses and minuses are right on. (except for half of #3, it is non stock, but ugly? )

[Tom Wesenberg]

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+ It allows for an easy connection point for the hotwater heater hose.

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by MikeK

Why don't you make a list of plusses and minuses? I'll start:

1. (-) You haven't fixed your bulb socket problem yet! (- - - - - - -)
I am 90% sure it is NOT A socket problem!
2. (+) By pulling the four bolts, you can leave the rad. hose attached at both ends if you have to change head gaskets or something. I hate wrestling a hose with an in-line 'stat into place.
Good + Point
3. (-) Ugly, as in non-stock.
+DOES NOT hold a candle..so is a alternator NON Stock and Fuses
4. (+) Permits quick easy 'stat change. (order & carry a spare new O-ring)
yea ok
5. (-) May encourage you to attach things to those two plugged ports.
+NOPE never thought of that, dont want the temp gauge had it took it off but water heater maybe
6. (+) Made in USA, not a Vintique P.O.S. (++++++++++++++++++++)
YUP Good
7. OK, your turn. . .

YOUR Turn now..I have all +'s basically, and Toms point of a hot water hook up is VERY VERY Good.

balls in your court Mike...PS I will email you on the other

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

M.S, we even have them out here in the "old west"! Now we don't have to "stuff" our non-stock thermostats in the non-stock re-po hoses.
Buster T. (By the way, Ol' Bill bought new RED rad. hoses, WOW!)

[AL in NY]

Below is from a earlier post of mine concerning the Vintage Precision thermostat housing. I have been using this housing with a by-pass system for two seasons now and it really improves cold weather drivability of the Model A.
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Earlier today I posted to MurphJ's question about upper radiator hose thermostat.

MurphyJ, I don't like the in hose thermostat because during warmup, there is no water circulation in the block causing hot spots at the rear of the engine. I run the Vintage Precision thermostat housing with a 180 degree thermostat and a thermostat bypass tube routed to the rear the the engine block. Much faster cold weather warmups and the bypass doesn't flow much water once the thermostat opens.

I really cann't take credit for the idea of routing the by-pass to the rear of the engine block. MikeK posted back in March the following:

With no 'stat in place, an A heats evenly and very slow. From an engineering standpoint you want even heating, but a fast rise to an elevated constant running temperature. Ideally a thermostat should have only one, very tiny hole to prevent air entrapment around the sensor element and it should pass no coolant while fully closed.

Since the A has no bypass, adding a stat designed to pass air but not some water when closed will cause the water to be stopped, causing boiling at localized internal hot spots while the bottom of the cylinder water jackets stay relatively cool. The result is an engine that overheats on the top end and in the back by #4 and then 'burps' when the t'stat opens, sometimes through several continuous cycles. Opening that t'stat vent hole, or drilling extras, like many A'ers do, simply allows some water circulation to even out the warm-up. HOWEVER, the water is from the cold radiator and back into the still cool engine, greatly extending the warm-up time.

A bypass from the water area circulating by the t'stat sensor to the back of the engine (bypassing the radiator) makes for a quick, even warmup with no temperature overspikes or burps. Some modern car 'stats are double valved, the bypass closes as the t'stat opens.

I've toyed with the idea myself, but I believe the ideal return point would be the lower portion of the water jacket behind #4, facing the firewall. The side inlet is a compromise, and at low flow rates the water in the far back will remain somewhat stagnated. In any case, a 3/8 SS tube would probably be ideal.

It was his idea and it works beautifully, Thanks, MikeK!!!!!

[bill44]

I have had one for several years, and they work fine. They do have bypass grooves built in. The Mfgr has a special fitting for long temp probes if you need it. Other wise the probe will interfer with the thermostat. Solves the broken ears on the goose neck.

[MikeK]

Thanks AL!
I was looking for your post to use as a link when I typed my #5, couldn't find it.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Several years back I put a sleeved 160 degree thermostat from Mike's Affordable in the top of the upper hose. When starting cold, I was surprised at how much water was flowing into the top tank looking in with the cap off! Either it was coming through the vent hole, or maybe the valve doesn't make a positive seal, or possibly, pump pressure pushes the valve open slightly??
Would some of you make observations on COLD starts & see if you see the same flow & report it here? Bill W.

[spdway1]

Do I need one, what are the benefits?


"Just because Auto Zone sells it, does not mean we need it"

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by spdway1

Do I need one, what are the benefits?


"Just because Auto Zone sells it, does not mean we need it"

You're my kind of guy, Spdway, when looking at the pic with the by-pass tube to the back of the block????? Tryin' to re-engineer somebody's original engineering??? Does anyone even REALLY know what goes on with the circulation in various parts of the waterjackets??? or are they just GUESSING? Did Ford engineers REALLY know what goes on in those mysterious, dark, holes, some even possibly distorted by casting sand shifts, collapses, etc?
Point being, do we really need this stuff, although it does make it nifty to hook up hot water heaters.
Bill W. (The Dog just said something like "Devil's Advocate" What's he mean??)

[hardtimes]

Hot water heater..hm, what's that

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hot water heater..hm, what's that

Like the old box heaters in the '30's & '40s. Wrecking yards had loads of them in the '50's. Bill W.

[Mitch//pa]

those housings work good many touring guys use them to add accy's. i drilled an extra hole in my t-stat that in the hose for a little extra flow..

[msmaron]

well lets see how it work, have one coming next week

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by msmaron

well lets see how it work, have one coming next week

great give us a first hand report on your experience with it

[eagle]

I'm wondering why would a person put a thermostat in without a hot water heater? My A runs great even in subzero weather. In some of the old engines, unless you get them good and hot they don't run as well but I haven't experienced that with an A. Not trying to find fault, just wondering what your purpose is. thanks