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Old 02-04-2011, 08:37 AM   #21
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WHY do you (--or they) think this combination of chemicals is so much better than all the rest of products out there? Any opinions or guesses??

Common sense would tell me that someone else would have stumbled onto and already marketed this product in an aerosol or drip container if it were that simple and that much better. Companies that manufacture PB Blaster and Kroil have likely spent much time R&D-ing and formulating products and would have taken the easier road if all it took was a little acetone and some ATF.



BTW, exactly what makes Lucas Oil Products so much better that they sell that much product. While I am a skeptic for the product, they evidently must be selling a bunch of the stuff because Lucus not only sponsors several race car teams, sanctions several venues of motorsports, and even owns a stadium. THAT don't come cheap, so they must be sellin' it to somebody. I tend to think that oil manufacturers would have purchased the Lucus stuff, analyzed & tested it, and then formulated it into their own product if it really did what Lucus claims. I dunno, ...maybe I am giving too much credit to the petroleum industry, --but I doubt it. Is my thinking wrong in this??

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I'm with Brent. And you can add all those oil additives for decreased engine wear and higher gas mileage and engine add ons that claim to increase gas mileage to the list.
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:03 AM   #22
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This is a 2 stroke washing machine engine...
AH!... Maytag ---the first engine I ever used in a go-cart when I was 12!
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:23 AM   #23
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The best substitute for Kroil is More Kroil!

Amen !!!

One of the problems we have experienced in the fuel injector reconditioning business is short shelf life ( after ultrasonically cleaning and flowing).
We had tried just about every thing and marvel mystry oil worked the best but not perfect. A call to the "kroil" folks and the guy says you are close with the Marvel but you need to blend some Kroil into it. We now pack every injector in a 3/1 mixture of marvel/kroil.
This is a picture a friend made me to apply the mix thru the fuel injector.

My wife loves the smell of kroil on my clothes.....rbg :>)
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #24
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AH!... Maytag ---the first engine I ever used in a go-cart when I was 12!
My neighbor had a Maytag twin on his go kart back in 1963. It was a lot of fun.

Bubbas Ignition, your wife is right. The smell of Kroil is great. I like it even better than my antique bottle of Singer sewing oil, which smells like all the old machine sheds on the farms.
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Old 02-04-2011, 10:18 PM   #26
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............. I tend to think that oil manufacturers would have purchased the Lucus stuff, analyzed & tested it, and then formulated it into their own product if it really did what Lucus claims. I dunno, ...maybe I am giving too much credit to the petroleum industry, --but I doubt it. Is my thinking wrong in this??

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No, you are thinking 100% logically.
Perhaps you share my fondness for that old saying, "Why is common sense so uncommon?"
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:25 AM   #27
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After reading all of the threads about Kroil substitute, I cant help but ask; Why don't you just buy Kroil and be done with it? It only costs about 5 bucks.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:30 AM   #28
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I think the discussion was more about what's being used and what might be better/best. JMO
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:39 AM   #29
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After reading all of the threads about Kroil substitute, I cant help but ask; Why don't you just buy Kroil and be done with it? It only costs about 5 bucks.
The spray can of Kroil I bought 5 years ago cost $12 at the sporting goods store. I thought that was too much. Where is it $5?
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:39 PM   #30
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From the Kano Labs website. I buy it by the case.

AeroKroil (Kroil aerosol) - $11.00 /per individual 10 oz. can
AeroKroil Case of (12) 10 oz. - $95.00/case
AeroKroil Kingsize 13 oz. can - $12.00 /per individual 13 oz. can
AeroKroil Kingsize Case of (12) 13 oz. cans - $113.95 /cs
AeroKroil Industrial Size 16.5 oz. aerosol can - $16.00 /individual can
AeroKroil Industrial Size 16.5 oz. aerosol cans - 12cn/cs - $133.75 /cs
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:45 PM   #31
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Been using mercron/dexron for years. It's not quick, but it works great. Mixed it with lacquer thinner- yes it's toxic, like everything else in the garage (that's why they don't call it the kitchen) and had quicker results. Caution: don't eat it, breathe it, bathe in it, smoke it or light it with a match. Don't let your dog roll in it. YES it causes cancer. Yes that used motor oil under your nails is highly carcinogenic as well boys. Sorry to poop on the parade, but practically everything liquid or semi-liquid we use in the garage is bad stuff, from bearing grease to wiper fluid, it is all toxic in some way either to us or Mother Nature. My experience with type F is that it stinks and doesn't work as good. If you have to heat it it stinks even worse. The answer of the effectiveness of any penetrant lies in the detergents no matter which product we are talking about. Luke
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:15 PM   #32
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Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/Kano-Kroil-Pen.../dp/B000F09CF4
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:24 PM   #33
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I last bought Kroil about 8-10 years ago.... got one can of Aero-Kroil, and a one gallon can. The Aero-Kroil seems frightfully expensive and was gone in a couple months; the gallon has lasted years & I have given away some to friends.

I bought direct from Kano labs.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:31 PM   #34
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After reading all of the threads about Kroil substitute, I cant help but ask; Why don't you just buy Kroil and be done with it? It only costs about 5 bucks.
Amen. That's where I was headed way back in post #8. JMHO
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:11 PM   #35
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I've heard that Dryer Sheets not only free rusted threaded fasteners, but they also are a good replacement for Zinc in motor oil.

Government studies have also shown gas mileage improvements of 40 - 50%.

If you are able to stuff 5-6 of these in the spark plug hole of a stuck cylinder the engine will not only free itself, but it will rebuild the engine as it works it's way through.

This brand works the best:

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CDO: which hole does it go in to improve your gas?... ;<}
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:25 PM   #37
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CDO: which hole does it go in to improve your gas?... ;<}

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Old 02-08-2011, 11:31 PM   #38
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One thing I am sure of is the Acetone MSDS is worth reading “CANCER” before you use it under any circumstance.

Yikes. I guess I knew it was nasty stuff but in paint prep at John Deere, we had 55 gallon drums of the stuff and used to swap down parts and gull wing doors on the Combines that were being re-painted and thought nothing of it. Just grabbed some cheese cloth or cloth rags, soaked it down and went to town. You had to hurry as there was a lot of re-work to do.

One of my friends in that Dept. came down with a brain tumor and died at 58 years old. Another good friend also in the Dept developed a weird muscle condition went off on disability and died about a month later at 56 years old. They told us it was dangerous but you get in a hurry and forget about it. The MSDS also said to be careful.

While I am sure that Acetone is a dangerous fluid, who says it is carcinogenic?
Apparenntly not those responsible for investigating it as shown below.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts21.pdf
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:36 PM   #39
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Apparerently MSDS also does not concider it a carcinogen.

http://mfc.engr.arizona.edu/safety/M...ER/Acetone.pdf
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:03 AM   #40
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Steve,
Look at this forum. It may answer some of your questions.http://forums.190slgroup.com/showthr...-Oils-Compared
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