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Old 02-09-2019, 09:25 PM   #1
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I want to drive in the winter without being uncomfortable. I don't want to cut a hole in the firewall of my '29 Tudor and I don't want to clutter up my passenger compartment with a little heater box. So, what to do?! For years I rode a motorcycle in the winter (Washington DC area) and had a heated vest and hand grips. My last VW had heated seats, which I loved. Has anyone put aftermarket heating pads under the upholstry of their Model A -- or tried a heated motorcycle vest? I am going 12 volt with a 60 amp alternator, so I think my system could handle a vest or heated seats. Thoughts and experience would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:51 PM   #2
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Heated seats work well in a 12 volt system. I have a 29 open top speedster. I put March je moisture resistant seat heater. Works great, has a high low switch and middle position is off.

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Heated seats work well in a 12 volt system. I have a 29 open top speedster. I put March je moisture resistant seat heater. Works great, has a high low switch and middle position is off.

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Any idea about what the current draw is?
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:35 PM   #4
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Move to a warmer climate!!
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:02 AM   #5
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Remember if you make the alternator belt tight enough to put out 60 amps you will wear out the front bearing of the water pump. How many amps does the electric heater draw? I would use an era correct hot water heater and put the holes in the floorboard. Of course in Southern California I don't have a problem (by the way, where in general do you live?).

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Old 02-10-2019, 01:38 AM   #7
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Eat more beans, I agree with the hot water heater. I have a period correct one in the rear floor
Of my Tudor Sedan works great. No fan it just radiates.
I do want to try the heated seats in my Roadster though.
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Original equipment is the only way to go...
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Mother!!!! No!!! IT CAN'T BE!!!!
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Remember if you make the alternator belt tight enough to put out 60 amps you will wear out the front bearing of the water pump. How many amps does the electric heater draw? I would use an era correct hot water heater and put the holes in the floorboard. Of course in Southern California I don't have a problem (by the way, where in general do you live?).

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Seems like 10 amps for two seats on the high setting. But, additional wear on the water pump bearing is a good point, Charlie. I live in the Washington DC area (Northern Virginia). Here's what WATERCARBON brand seats say: Water Carbon each seat includes two pads - One for the Seat Back and One for the Seat Bottom. Two Kits are included to Accommodate two seats. Each Heater Has Three Settings - High, Low and Off. Dual Temperature Control System. Electronic thermostat (built into each pad) regulates the electricity / temperature circulating within the carbon fiber seat heating pad. This system regulates the flow of power and maintains a narrower temperature range whether in a high or low setting. Example: The high setting will have a constant range between 120°F to 125°F. The low setting ranges between 110°F to 115°F. These respective temperatures are maintained at these respective levels. Backrest & Seat Bottom Heating Pads -- 11" x 17.5" Pads are approximately 1/32" thick. Either pad can be installed in back or bottom. Length can be trimmed to any size. Electrical Specs Wattage: 24-36 Watts per Pad, 48-60 Watts per seat Current Draw: 3 Amps on Low Heat Setting and 5 Amps on High Setting per Seat. It is a 12 V system. If you have always wanted to add factory like heated seats to your Vehicle or Boat, then this Heated Seat kit is the ideal kit and the ideal solution whether you own a car, SUV, Truck, Boat or Plane. Carbon Fiber technology is the best seat heating pad material in the marketplace. Installation may require removal and re-installation of seat and seat covers, as well as basic knowledge of the vehicle's wiring or professional installation.


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Old 02-10-2019, 09:09 AM   #11
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Paul, check out this thread from a few years ago on heaters that DON'T require firewall holes. Floorboard vents are used instead.
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[B]In the OLD Surplus Stores, I'd buy electrically heated Flight Suits & matching hats for my Roadster. They were 24 Volts & the plugs were cut off, to a nub! For rain, I cut two head holes, in a Surplus, heavy tarp.
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Paul, check out this thread from a few years ago on heaters that DON'T require firewall holes. Floorboard vents are used instead.

Chuck - What thread is that? Got a link? Thanks. Bj
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:41 AM   #14
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'Era Correct' would have been a 1/5th under the seat......
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:11 AM   #15
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on my 160A four door, I to did not want to cut a hole in the firewall. so I found this heater manifold. it goes through the wood part of the floor and it keeps the inside nice and toasty, I can feel the hot air blowing in my face.
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Wire in a 12 volt receptacle in an inconspicuous spot in the cab and plug in electric blanket(s) to sit on as needed. Simple installation, very low cost, and electric blanket(s) can be stored out of car until needed.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:53 AM   #17
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Is that what's called a Running-Board Heater? Number 6 from the top
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:07 AM   #18
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Johnnie hand warmer. Had one in both coat pockets while delivering newspapers in Waterloo
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...orboard+heater
Sorry, forget the link. Thanks for the remind.....
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:54 AM   #21
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I too ride (my motorcycle) year round and have a full compliment of electric gear. It works great and that is a pretty good idea. However, if you are just looking at a vest, Milwaukee tools makes a jacket with a built in heater, much like the electric vest that I have for the bike. It works off of a 12v battery. Theyre a bit pricey, about $200 at HD. My first vehicle, '65 ford pickup had no heater, I just toughed it out in the winter and kept the girls close by!
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Do what you have to do, but please don’t cut any holes in the firewall.
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I have seen some nice 12V SMALL in-cab hot water heaters that would be easy to put in an "A". They are mostly intended for small spaces like skid steers, etc. Worth looking into.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:42 AM   #24
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Last time I was at Bert's they had these repro 6 and 12 volt hot water heaters.

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TO KEEP WARM, Harbor Freight Packing Blankets are CHEAP!!!
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Drive a car with the steering wheel on the right side!. There is enough hot air coming in around the pedals to keep anybody warm - too much in summer.
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In the good old days we made possum blankets.
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Not sure that's politically correct now.

We sent some to New Zealand and they love to breed them up. Cold there I guess.
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I drive my roadster in the mild winters of SC and came up with this blanket that captures the engine heat. Works pretty good.
https://youtu.be/i2Wv1QlQL1E

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Old 03-01-2019, 08:14 AM   #29
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Hi Jackson - Link not working for me, opens to the home page of GMAIL.
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Although I have a exhaust manifold heater and it works great you are fighting the cold put off by the cold soaked gas tank.
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I corrected the link, I think https://youtu.be/i2Wv1QlQL1E
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