A true barn find?

[karasmer]

Well I picked this up off ebay and it sure looks not to have been touched since it's last regular use

[Y-Blockhead]

Pictures would be nice...

[C4engr]

I among many Barnners would love to see pictures.

Rog

[karasmer]

Pics did not load now I am getting upload fail message, will keep trying.

[Brother Hesekiel]

I think I'm envying you for having scored this one. I would prefer a body with that patina over one that has won Fine Points scoring. I would refurbish the mechanicals, the interior as needed, put a new top on, and drive the wheels off it until I die.

[1930artdeco]

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Sure looks like a barn find. Good luck and good find.

Mike

[charles in east texas]

That would be a cardinal sin to restore that car. Get it running, mend the brakes and throw an old quilt over the seat and drive it till you die as Brother H. said. Nerver, never do anything more. Charles

[BlueSunoco]

I'd do the same as Charles and Brother Hezek. That way you could also 'ease' into the hobby and still have fun.

If at some later date you wanted to do a total resto you're already half way there.

[karasmer]

How about those rusted out parts, leave them or replace?

[Joe K]

It depends. The measure is "can it be registered." Do NOTHING, replace nothing that doesn't need doing - unless you need it for a registration.

Well, there is an active trade in "unrestored seat cushions." It's hard to sit on a moving blanket and drive the car. One hopes for "original but presentable" in this case.

One respondent along these lines back at the old Ahooga board bought a roadster door from Brookville - since he couldn't find any original door suitable and would meet inspection - and then "aged" it by paint to look like the original door minus the damage.

Mechanically do what you will - but don't touch that patina. Take pix before and after to verify you haven't changed anything visually but restored the operability.

Patina is HISTORY. Once removed, it can never be put back.

Joe K

[joe 1950]

what year is it what body style keep it as original as you can just to neat to restore

[45GPW]

Originally Posted by charles in east texas

throw an old quilt over the seat and drive it till you die as Brother H. said.

Those exposed seat springs might need more than just an old quilt over them, unless you've got lots of padding of your own.

I'd replace a few things so you can use it comfortably, like the seat cushions--maybe look for a used seat, like Joe K said, with still-serviceable upholstery.

I'd probably replace the running boards, unless you think you and your passengers can get in/out without stepping on or (more likely) through them.

And along with going through the mechanicals to make sure it's safe to drive, I'd drop the oil pan and take the 61+/- year old sludge out of the engine too.

Nice find.

[TinCup]

So under the word PATINA in the dictionary they should just show your car. What a nice start.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

This is not aimed at any one person but think this through. What is the attraction for some people that want to own/drive a worn-out, ratted-out, clapped-out pile of sheetmetal that is passed off as an all original barn find? If you must go thru it to restore the poor braking system, rebuild the tired 'down on power' engine, rebuild the 'ditch-to-ditch steering, and do all these other things to make it safe & reliable, then is it truly a "survivor car" --or isn't really a car that is being used to deceive people as we try to pass it off as something it truly isn't? Now don't get me wrong, I have a true fondness for the truly original Model-As like Tom Boston's Coupe, the late Steve Cicallones' Coupe or Davey Lopes' Fordor that have been cleaned & detailed, but I kinda struggle with how some of the cars are being passed off to the general public as an all original unmolested "barn find" when nothing could be further from the truth. Do we really feel this kind of deception is good for the hobby? What am I missing??

[bart78]

That's great. I would drive this over a fully restored car any day.

[karasmer]

I guess a good true "original"survivor would be one that was put away with low miles in great storage conditions. Clean the sludge, lube it up and drive. Or better yet, driven around the block 4 times a year for the last 80 years, ya right.

[armchair67]

I agree with the guys saying go through the mechanicals so it's safe and reliable, maybe some used but good condition seat/top, and drive the wheels off of it. Neat find!

[RandyinUtah]

I agree with what Brent Terry has said. If you start replacing and fixing things on the car it is NOT the way you found it in the barn.

[Brother Hesekiel]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

This is not aimed at any one person but think this through. What is the attraction for some people that want to own/drive a worn-out, ratted-out, clapped-out pile of sheetmetal that is passed off as an all original barn find? If you must go thru it to restore the poor braking system, rebuild the tired 'down on power' engine, rebuild the 'ditch-to-ditch steering, and do all these other things to make it safe & reliable, then is it truly a "survivor car" --or isn't really a car that is being used to deceive people as we try to pass it off as something it truly isn't? Now don't get me wrong, I have a true fondness for the truly original Model-As like Tom Boston's Coupe, the late Steve Cicallones' Coupe or Davey Lopes' Fordor that have been cleaned & detailed, but I kinda struggle with how some of the cars are being passed off to the general public as an all original unmolested "barn find" when nothing could be further from the truth. Do we really feel this kind of deception is good for the hobby? What am I missing??

As the Harley Davidson slogan goes: "if we have to explain, you wouldn't understand."

The patina on this car is something only time can create. We are talking 80 year or more. If you have money and 80 years of time, you may be able to duplicate it. Most of us don't. Money can create a fine points car or a sure-fire show winner, but not a car like that. You can have a million dollars to burn, you won't be able to create a car like this. You'd have to find one, and convince the owner to part with it.

No, it won't be totally original, but what matters most is that the car won't be painted, ever. Even if the owner chooses to bring the mechanicals up to snuff, redo the seats, and put a new top on it, the main impact of the car won't change. People will look at it in awe, and ask questions, but the owner won't have to explain. It's the real thing, something, as I stated before, only time can create, and time isn't always gentle. In case of a Model A, it had to survive a world war, a depression, the prohibition, and generations of well-meaning but clueless as well as don't-care, don't give a hoot folks. Few have survived so much sh*t, and that makes 'em truly special. Again, I would buy this body for the same money I'd had to pay for a new Brookville body, and I would have an erection every night even thinking about it. Pure Model A porn in my book.

[bikejunk]

If this was an antique motorcycle you would be destroying value by restoring the body ,so many bikes were dragged out and restored -high quality or brush paint , it is nice to see them like this, and for the next generation this type of thing may not exist.

[pooch]

If there were 50 nice shiny ones and this one at a show, which would get the most attention ?

[C26Pinelake]

You indeed have to make it safe. Although I love originality I have my limits. I agree with Brent on this one for sure! Great find no matter what you do and I hope the price was right !
Wayne

[LSJUNIPER]

Here is a pic of the 28A I brought home a few weeks ago. Sat in a garage for 40 years.



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[mhsprecher]

A great car. Nothing much to add to the above other than that I would want a good seat. Buying a used one to replace what you have makes sense if you want to keep that untouched.

This so-called 'barn find" mania annoys me. What is a true "barn find"? When I was younger, we would scour the countryside looking in old buildings for cars that had been parked inside after the owners had finished driving them, but didn't want to get rid of them. In my view, these days you don't find that much with Model As, because the original or second or third owners have long since passed from the scene. What they are now is an older restored car or unrestored car that has been picked up by someone and not restored or where a collector gets old or dies and it has been neglected for a while. There is just way too much hype, abetted by these "pickers" shows and Antiques Roadshow about "barn finds". They exist, but in my definition, they are rare. Finding a 1960s "barn find" is much easier than a Model A. In spite of my rant, yours, by the way, looks like the real deal. It looks like it has been stored untouched for decades. Way cool.

FWIW, there is a guy near me who has an old Model T that he brings to shows. It is all rust and bent where a tree fell on it. You couldn't duplicate that on purpose if you tried. It runs like a top, though, and garners a lot of attention at the shows he goes to.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Is it REALLY a point about some not understanding if it needs to be explained, --OR is it more about no one can actually explain it logically??

And one other thought, some blast others for building a fine-points car however they choose a car just like this to take shows. Yes, it brings more attention, ...but then so does a Hooker working on Hollywood Blvd.! Yes, she may get more looks than other ladies walking on the street but that does not mean everyone that does look likes what they see!! For those that missed it, my point above was NOT about the car, ...it's about how folks who do have them (-or maybe want to own one) often portray them to the general public.

[Joe K]

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And like everything else - appearance is EVERYTHING.

Nothing is as it is found. Everything changes as part of our relationship with it. Sort of a human Heisenberg uncertainty principle? The mere fact of examining something affects how it appears?

I had an odd feeling passing though my Mother-in-law's house after her passing in 1995. EVERYTHING in that house had been placed by her - and now by our act of even moving around in that house we were somehow "erasing" evidence of her existence. Instead of the radio waking up to HER favorite channel, it would be changed and wake up to OURS. And likewise for everything else.

Such is life. In a very short while it would be like she had never lived there. Except, of course, for what we remember of her.

And even memory can err - or change to what we want it to be.

So it is even with these barn finds. They come out of hiding and almost immediately they start changing.

The question to be asked is - is the change beneficial - or by changing is it putting the Model A closer to the scrapper (or rodder) and thereby a permanent loss?

And if it pleases one to somehow attempt to "keep" in the "as found" condition - who is to argue?

Well, providing the car is safe and reasonably pleasurable to drive. A cracked windshield may be as found - but won't pass inspection in Cow Hampshire. Neither will rusted out panels that flap in the wind (and may catch and injure passerby.) Ditto functional brakes - although in my experience inspectors know NOTHING of mechanical brakes, their adjustment, their functionality (or lack thereof) and typically defer to the owner in these matters.

But truly, even the "as found" cars are likely far from it.

Appearance is EVERYTHING.

I think I said that.

Joe K

[Hoogah]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Is it REALLY a point about some not understanding if it needs to be explained, --OR is it more about no one can actually explain it logically??

Originally Posted by Brother Hesekiel

As the Harley Davidson slogan goes: "if we have to explain, you wouldn't understand."

It's the real thing, something, as I stated before, only time can create, and time isn't always gentle. In case of a Model A, it had to survive a world war, a depression, the prohibition, and generations of well-meaning but clueless as well as don't-care, don't give a hoot folks. Few have survived so much sh*t, and that makes 'em truly special.

Affairs of the heart defy logic, but Brother Hesekial came pretty close to describing what I see in a car like this. It's the wondering about what that car might have been through, it's a representation of 80+ years of history, and importantly it's perhaps the closest we will get to an authentic driving experience for an era that fascinates each one of us in one way or another. Sitting in that car will transport you back in a way that a fine point car can never do.

Call it what you like. "Barn find", "barn fresh" have lost their meaning. It doesn't matter. I reckon you either get it or you don't. And no disrespect either way. It's horses for courses. I GET this car! Do what you have to, but leave it to represent what it really is.

By the way, the seat looks good to go!!

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

Affairs of the heart defy logic, but Brother Hesekial came pretty close to describing what I see in a car like this.


Sitting in that car will transport you back in a way that a fine point car can never do.

I sure hope what you are saying is not really true (I saw no emoticons associated with this though) but IMHO it takes a 'sick' individual to receive an erection solely just thinking about a car!! Truer words have never been spoken about it being explained and me not understanding. I will never understand someone with that perverted mindset.

As to your second statement, I have sat in both types of Model-As that you describe, and I find your statement totally false. I suspect many others would say the same. What many do not understand is 99.9% of hobbyists do not accurately restore their Model-A to garner points, ....but instead do it as a goal to see how disciplined they are at following instructions and replicating exacting details. How challenging is it to garner accolades off of someone else's doing, ...especially if it is having a "sexual experience" with a non-living object someone else over time has created?? Again, what a sick & twisted world.

[Hoogah]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I sure hope what you are saying is not really true (I saw no emoticons associated with this though) but IMHO it takes a 'sick' individual to receive an . . . . . I will never understand someone with that perverted mindset.

As to your second statement, I have sat in both types of Model-As that you describe, and I find your statement totally false.

Hey, lighten up Brent! I think Brother Hesekial was having a joke with us!
True/False? Like I said, it's horses for courses and no disrespect to you, no matter how you derive your enjoyment from Mr Ford's wonderful cars!

[ronn]

Everyone has their preference regarding A's and I like them all!

However, I have always been more "comfortable" with the scruffy ones, sort of how I prefer
my women and booze...........

[bart78]

I think all that matters is the guy likes the car the way it is. I know there are some out there. That feel that there is only one way. And all the others are wrong. Who's to say the car is still original. There could have been something replaced a long time ago. We don't know. Just get it safe and drive the hell out of it. It's your car not anyone else's. It will be closer to original than most of the other cars out there.

[armchair67]

"If I have to explain it to you, you're probably not gonna get it "-Jay Leno, when asked why he has a helicopter engined motorcycle.

[Vin-tin]

Mine had been put away for 55 years. It was parked in 1958 in a great (dry) environment and not moved until last summer when I bought it. The body has zero rot!

[FL&WVMIKE]

karasmar .....................
You lucky dog !
Do what nearly everyone says and save the patina on the body. You can buy a GIBBS OIL, which will enhance your patina, greatly. You can get a prevue of what it will do, by spraying a little WD-40 on it. GIBBS OIL does it better and will last longer. It is what the antique motorcycle guys do, when they own a "barn find".
My phaeton (avatar) is unrestored and gets much more attention than the high point restored cars.
GREAT FIND !
MIKE (mikeburch)

[karasmer]

Well I am thinking no new top for now but I should really change out the running board, get it running good and that's it.

[todd3131]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I sure hope what you are saying is not really true (I saw no emoticons associated with this though) but IMHO it takes a 'sick' individual to receive an erection solely just thinking about a car!! Truer words have never been spoken about it being explained and me not understanding. I will never understand someone with that perverted mindset.

As to your second statement, I have sat in both types of Model-As that you describe, and I find your statement totally false. I suspect many others would say the same. What many do not understand is 99.9% of hobbyists do not accurately restore their Model-A to garner points, ....but instead do it as a goal to see how disciplined they are at following instructions and replicating exacting details. How challenging is it to garner accolades off of someone else's doing, ...especially if it is having a "sexual experience" with a non-living object someone else over time has created?? Again, what a sick & twisted world.

What am I missing? I saw nothing in what they said that was sick, am I not reading between the lines correctly?

Todd3131

[Harley03joe]

Great Buy
Enjoy
Harley03joe
Ford Model A 2dr | eBay
LOOKS LIKE JUNK TO ME, It's Great For The Pickers On TV

[BlueSunoco]

On a similar note................. picked up a copy yesterday of the Old Car Report 2015 value guide for antique and collectible cars at the book store. Don't have it in front of me a friend borrowed it and is returning it in a few days.

ANYway, flipped to the Model A Ford section and looked at '1930 Roadster' values and guess what, to my surprise, the STANDARD 1930 and 1931 Roadsters are valued HIGHER than the DELUXE models, by hundreds of dollars in the same condition across the rating!!

Kinda goes with what we're talking about here.

A STANDARD Roadster draws my eye faster than a Dlx. in those years simply because there are so many Deluxe models you see them everywhere. Same with the un-restored Model A's, I really enjoy looking at them.

[bart78]

How many deluxes were standards at one time. I like standards more than the deluxe.

[31 Woody]

Love it! Leave it as originally found as humanly possible.

[William Kelchner]

Whew! I know what Col. Custer must have felt like with all the arrows flying around on this post.....

Enjoy your find. Cheers

[pooch]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

Affairs of the heart defy logic, but Brother Hesekial came pretty close to describing what I see in a car like this. It's the wondering about what that car might have been through, it's a representation of 80+ years of history, and importantly it's perhaps the closest we will get to an authentic driving experience for an era that fascinates each one of us in one way or another. Sitting in that car will transport you back in a way that a fine point car can never do.

Call it what you like. "Barn find", "barn fresh" have lost their meaning. It doesn't matter. I reckon you either get it or you don't. And no disrespect either way. It's horses for courses. I GET this car! Do what you have to, but leave it to represent what it really is.

By the way, the seat looks good to go!!

Well said Hoogah...

I wonder if guys who have ' restored ' shiny fine point cars would let a fellow barner or anyone even sit in their car, let alone drive it .

I bet the majority of the barn finds and running survivor' owners would let anyone who asked, go for a drive .

It is almost starting to get snobbish at shows, where the concourse dudes have their noses in the air, and 99.9 % of their cars are cheque book 'restorations' anyway.

They probably even get some guy to check their oil and water and pump the tyres up.

They have their LOOK BUT DON'T TOUCH signs on it and they will not even walk to the dunny and leave their car unattended.

As a purist will walk straight past a rat rod , I generally walk straight past these plastic looking 'restorations '.

A model A off the assembly line never had flawless shiny paint all over and every stitch in the trim perfect .

To drive a survivor on a country lane with no other traffic around , and just pottering along without the constant battle to keep up with or out of the way of modern traffic, does transport the mind back to what it would have been like generations ago.

The last time I truly enjoyed a drive in a survivor was 2 years ago, when I drove at 5.30 am on the highway with no other cars anywhere and the moon was bright and the stars were shining and the wind freezing, and it was glorious.

[karasmer]

I will have to track down some Gibbs oil and give it a good rubdown, then work on getting it started and hopefully it has no major engine damage. The engine dates May of 29. The top irons and windshield pivots are frozen in place but those should be easy to get workable again or maybe I will just leave them as is... The hood pivots are very nice, not locked up and no hinge cracks.

[Hoogah]

Karasmer, I hope you can post some photos of your car after the Gibbs oil treatment, if you decide to go down that path. It would be great to compare with your "before" photos. My '28 Phaeton has a mixture of duco jobs ranging from recent attempts to preserve the original look on parts of the body back to original, but quite weathered, paint on the mudguards (well that's what we call 'em downunder!).

How do you propose to tackle the issue of a new top while trying to keep the survivor "feel" of the car? I have another car that I dismantled 30+ years ago with absolutely no restoration work done since (yes, I know!! ) and which I would now like to put back together as a survivor car. Trouble is, it's a sedan and I have to replace most of the original interior linings (door and roof etc). I reckon I could get away with re-using the original seats (the driver's seat has some fantastic hand-sewn patchwork that tells a story all on its own), but can't see how to avoid a clash of old and new in there! Even considering buying some material and somehow "distressing" it to make it match the seats, but have no idea how to do this! Maybe leave it out on the road for a week or two??

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I sure hope what you are saying is not really true (I saw no emoticons associated with this though) but IMHO it takes a 'sick' individual to receive an erection solely just thinking about a car!! Truer words have never been spoken about it being explained and me not understanding. I will never understand someone with that perverted mindset.

As to your second statement, I have sat in both types of Model-As that you describe, and I find your statement totally false. I suspect many others would say the same. What many do not understand is 99.9% of hobbyists do not accurately restore their Model-A to garner points, ....but instead do it as a goal to see how disciplined they are at following instructions and replicating exacting details. How challenging is it to garner accolades off of someone else's doing, ...especially if it is having a "sexual experience" with a non-living object someone else over time has created?? Again, what a sick & twisted world.

i get a woody when i sit in my car,, whats wrong with that

[ronn]

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Mitch,
appreciate you candor.................

maybe a bit too much information though.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

i get a woody when i sit in my car,, whats wrong with that

Seriously, you may need to see a doctor.

I understand the phrasing and expect it on the hamb and thought that other expressions for, "I like my car", would be used on the ford barn. Maybe to better explain it, I would call it juvenile.

No slam on the O.P. But let's call rust rust. When I see a line of "A's" I will look over the rust ones as much as the shiny ones. The rusty A's have the feel of how they were used in the later years. Takes all kinds to keep it interesting.

Neal

[Mitch//pa]

oh i forgot to add this excuse me

[zzlegend]

Good thing you didn't say this...........

[Randy in ca]

While the majority of posters seem to be inclined towards changing things as little as possible, I don't think the pictures you've posted have given them a good reading on the actual condition of this roadster. I remember the eBay listing and the pictures in it showing further serious rust and other issues. If you genuinely want people's opinions, I think you need to post a lot more good quality pictures. Just saying .......

[henry's 31]

Very nice find. I would check the mechanicals, make it safe to drive, and show others what an original car looks like.

Henry's 31

[Bob C]

Here's the link to Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-Ford-Mo...p2047675.l2557

Bob

[bartmcneill]

If you keep it looking as it is, you might find parts that have the same patina but are not rusted out to replace the ones that are in really poor condition like the running board, apron and perhaps a decent used seat. It all depends on what you want. Me, it would look new before I got through with it because that is what I like.

[TonyM]

Fix it up so it is drivable and functional.

My car was in "storage" for 50 years--twenty three of those years in a well-used dirt floor warehouse-garage that housed a fleet of giant Peterbuilt Wreckers and Payloaders. Here is what it looked like the day I purchased it. Very, very dirty. I cleaned it up good and polished it up. Looks great. Here is the car this past Saturday. A real survivor.

[C26Pinelake]

I must say the ebay photos put a whole new perspective on the condition of this vehicle ! Wow !
Wayne

[Brother Hesekiel]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

i get a woody when i sit in my car,, whats wrong with that

"It's hard to walk, when you have a woody!"

[40 Deluxe]

"sitting IN a shed for over 50 years..."? More like it sat behind the shed! Or the shed did not have a roof. That car has been sitting full of leaves, dirt and other moisture-retaining debris, from the extensive rust it has. It's rusted in the oddest places, too. Usually rust forms in pockets like door bottoms where moisture is trapped. This car has rust holes on vertical surfaces even! Hate to see the underside! This poor car is NOT a survivor. It died some years ago! Sadly, it's a rat rod candidate without major rust repair.

[jw hash]

Karasmer. is that spare tire an old USA made 21" goodyear or a out of the country reproduction. it sure does not look like the new reproductions ones

[pooch]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

oh i forgot to add this excuse me

Nice Woody Mitch .

Funny when you have to explain jokes to some.

[Tinbasher]

Well here's tough one. I guess it comes down to what you want. And everyone's got a different spin on that one. I have friend that finds a car like this and every winter he rebuilds a part of the car. The motor and trans the first year. The chassis the second year etc. etc. and drives the car every summer. He's been driving his cars for years while I've been doing a ground up restoration and I've still not driven the car. Guess it comes down to what you want. I think I would get it running if you can and run it around the block to see what you've got. Then make a decision. My car was to far gone and needed a total rebuild. See where yours is and go from there. Welcome to the World of Model A's.

The Old Tinbasher

[Vonn Ditch]

That car has survived until now in one piece. So, I'd call it a survivor.
I like it a lot and I would certainly give the selling price on Ebay to own one just like it.

I've got a 40 coupe in pretty much the same condition body wise, but mechanically sound. I have more fun with that car than I have with any restored car I've owned.

[29ModelA]

To me if you are only changing service parts that would need to be changed or repaired when it was put away it is still a survivor.

I drug my car out and re-assembled it, it has no value unless you can drive it amd preserve whats left and likely would continue to rot if you drug it out and let it just sit. By putting it back in service you are continuing to preserve it, and enjoy it.

I know when I park my original patina'ed car next to a line of restored Model A's, it gets more attention than the restored ones, and that ticks off 'some' of the guys that dropped the money restoring their cars. Others come and drool with the regular people. I never say it is original, I always say it is 'mostly original'.

And I don't have to worry about scratches I let any child that asks politely or just looks interested in it to sit in it if they would like and honk the horn.

I wipe mine with motor oil once per year.

[karasmer]

Yes that is an original 21 inch"made in the USA" tire and seems plenty usable. What I find amazing with this car is that it is an un-rodded, un-restored roadster not pieces and parts of one. Sure I see plenty of tudors and such in this condition but a (roadster), usually somebody caught wind of it stashed away and eventually got it decades ago. The value I see in it is a new puzzle to work with, down the road when all the original roadster bodies have been rodded, restored. or pieced out. In the meantime it can be a drivable great conversation piece. I have heard plenty of stories of cars completely rusting out in dirt floor barns, who knows, odds are though it spent some time outdoors. We had a family gathering today and I caught some family members out in the barn (non car people) gawking at it with admiration and not so much with my other A's. They were amazed how well both doors operated clicking nicely into the closed position. If it wasn't so rusted it would be a score of a lifetime for me.

[Bob Bidonde]

I think that your "Barn Find" will be very competitive in original class judging if you do not restore it.

Give it a good cleaning, and rub the paint with a protectant. Do what is necessary using original parts to make the car safe and fun to drive. Drive it a lot!

Enter it in original class judging and bring home some trophies to give your Model A some prominence. Put together a show & tell story board of the cars history to the best you can.

[karasmer]

Well I have been cleaning and oiling her up, got the windshield and top bows free, also added some new photos on page 1. Best I can tell as to what's missing are the rumble lid hinges and the rear bumper. It definitely was an original rumble seat model.

[ronn]

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I wipe mine with motor oil once per year.

like your style 29..........

would that be used or new motor oil you wipe it down with?

[karasmer]

I found a page from an old newspaper behind the seat, guessing was about 1940 due to an article about staying neutral in the war. There was an interesting ad for rebuilding the Ford V-8 for $39.50. I don't think this paper would have survived if the car was stored outside.

[29ModelA]

Originally Posted by ronn

I wipe mine with motor oil once per year.

like your style 29..........

would that be used or new motor oil you wipe it down with?

I use new, used motor oil tends to have a lot of contaminants that I think would do more harm than good.