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Chris in WNC · 04-30-2013, 05:40 PM

comments in another thread pushed this button.

I know the white vs black tire is a personal preference thing, but why oh why do we see cars scoring 500 points in Touring Class judging with whitewalls. it gripes me to no end.

I see cars (unwisely) entered in fine point judging with whitewalls. isn't there an automatic point deduction for this?

seems there shold be at least 1 or 2 points dinged in Tour Class for single-sided whitewall tires.

would appreciate any education the JS or Tour guys can provide here......

MikeK · 04-30-2013, 06:10 PM

The whole point of touring class is to permit some of the club members who do not have $80,000 to invest in a fine-points vehicle an opportunity to have a bit of joy showing their daily drivers. Yep, you're definitely hung up on white-walls if your focus is wanting someone ELSE to suffer a deduction. I tend to look for what someone has right, not wrong. If you nit-pick everything in touring class you end up with fine-point and very few cars shown at a meet.

Not everyone with an A is focused on the plain look of a no-frills off the sales-floor A. Even fine-point demands a spare tire. Outrageous! The car came with the metal wheel only. Why not complain about that.

lookin-backtexas · 04-30-2013, 06:49 PM

Chris:
I'm with you - Model A's came with blackwalls from the factory and that's my preference too! Most guys I know who have put whitewalls on their A's have later regretted it because they became "yellowwalls". They just look much more original with blackwalls like they came with.
Fred

raprice · 04-30-2013, 06:56 PM

I have whitewalls on my '30 Model A, but they were on the car when I bought it. They were brand new at the time. When I replace the tires, they will be blackwalls as they were when the car was new.
Rog

Fred K-OR · 04-30-2013, 06:59 PM

Need some education here. Were whitewalls not an option in the 30's?

ctvpa · 04-30-2013, 07:01 PM

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Yes, they came with blackwalls. But they also came with no bumpers. How many have added that option, just like whitewalls were 'an option'.
I have blackwalls on my roadster, and whitewalls on my Tudor.
I saw a 30 deluxe roadster with a cream body and tan fenders, not for me, but I have to say it looked nice. It's your choice.

Hicktick · 04-30-2013, 07:04 PM

I don't like whitewalls on an A , but to each , his own .

Whitewalls do look good

on a big Packard.

whirnot · 04-30-2013, 07:14 PM

No comment

mhsprecher · 04-30-2013, 07:17 PM

My Town Sedan came with whitewalls. They are now yellow, on one side only, oddly enough. When I need new tires, I will get blackwalls, but I can live with the whitewalls. I have seen period photos of cars with whitewalls. To each his own.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-30-2013, 07:23 PM

Are "we" KRANKIN' about this again? Freedom is all about choice!! Some must be really BORED, don't you need to wax the car, take out the trash, fix the toilet, brush the Dog's teeth, pet the Cat, oil the pulley on the well rope, wash your coffee mugs, oil the Oogah Horn, throw away the BEER cans, or sumpthin' useful??
Buster T.

midgetracer · 04-30-2013, 07:26 PM

Politics, Religion and tire choice should be up to the individual person. Why do I hear people concerned about how my car looks. To each his own I say!! I apologize to no one for how my cars look and try to see the good in all Model As. This subject should be banned.

bart78 · 04-30-2013, 07:36 PM

These are reasons that have kept me from shows and clubs. There are all ways some that think they know how everyone's cars should look. These are allso reasons why I think more and more are staying away from restoration folks.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-30-2013, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart78

These are reasons that have kept me from shows and clubs. There are all ways some that think they know how everyone's cars should look. These are allso reasons why I think more and more are staying away from restoration folks.

Bart,
I put a little sign in my 1/4 window: "If you see something that don't meet your expectations or something you don't like, I either know about it or don't care! Thank you!" Bill W.

Fred · 04-30-2013, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctvpa

Yes, they came with blackwalls. But they also came with no bumpers. How many have added that option, just like whitewalls were 'an option'.
I have blackwalls on my roadster, and whitewalls on my Tudor.
I saw a 30 deluxe roadster with a cream body and tan fenders, not for me, but I have to say it looked nice. It's your choice.

No BUMPERS ??, When ??

Rowdy · 04-30-2013, 07:50 PM

I definately agree whiewalls look bad, but they cost more so some have to show they can splurge dispite the terrible appearance. Just my thoughts. Rod

Rock Hornbuckle · 04-30-2013, 07:57 PM

I once had a fat girlfriend that had whitewalls, I traded her for a skinny one with blackwalls!

amdriven2liv · 04-30-2013, 08:06 PM

So, I haven't even picked up the A we are getting.

It has "white walls" on as she sits.

Is this what I get to hear if I show up this summer at an event?

Doesn't sound too fun.

Tom Wesenberg · 04-30-2013, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amdriven2liv

So, I haven't even picked up the A we are getting.

It has "white walls" on as she sits.

Is this what I get to hear if I show up this summer at an event?

Doesn't sound too fun.

The whitewall debate is just for laughs!!

Speaking of "Just for Laughs" I sure wish we could get that show. It was really funny the few times I saw it.

Fred · 04-30-2013, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amdriven2liv

So, I haven't even picked up the A we are getting.

It has "white walls" on as she sits.

Is this what I get to hear if I show up this summer at an event?

Doesn't sound too fun.

Hey, What do you think I hear when I show up with my 1928 Coupe that has won the "MASTER RESTERATION AWARD" from MARC, and it has Whitewalls on it & had them on when it went thru fine point judging..

amdriven2liv · 04-30-2013, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred

Hey, What do you think I hear when I show up with my 1928 Coupe that has won the "MASTER RESTERATION AWARD" from MARC, and it has Whitewalls on it & had them on when it went thru fine point judging..

Did your "Ears burn off"!!!!!

Truly the talk of the town.!

04-30-2013, 05:40 PM	#1
Chris in WNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spruce Pine, NC Posts: 1,458	time for another whitewall rant...... comments in another thread pushed this button. I know the white vs black tire is a personal preference thing, but why oh why do we see cars scoring 500 points in Touring Class judging with whitewalls. it gripes me to no end. I see cars (unwisely) entered in fine point judging with whitewalls. isn't there an automatic point deduction for this? seems there shold be at least 1 or 2 points dinged in Tour Class for single-sided whitewall tires. would appreciate any education the JS or Tour guys can provide here...... __________________ our next Model A is out there in the unknown......

04-30-2013, 06:10 PM	#2
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... The whole point of touring class is to permit some of the club members who do not have $80,000 to invest in a fine-points vehicle an opportunity to have a bit of joy showing their daily drivers. Yep, you're definitely hung up on white-walls if your focus is wanting someone ELSE to suffer a deduction. I tend to look for what someone has right, not wrong. If you nit-pick everything in touring class you end up with fine-point and very few cars shown at a meet. Not everyone with an A is focused on the plain look of a no-frills off the sales-floor A. Even fine-point demands a spare tire. Outrageous! The car came with the metal wheel only. Why not complain about that.

04-30-2013, 06:49 PM	#3
lookin-backtexas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 396	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... Chris: I'm with you - Model A's came with blackwalls from the factory and that's my preference too! Most guys I know who have put whitewalls on their A's have later regretted it because they became "yellowwalls". They just look much more original with blackwalls like they came with. Fred __________________ Fred Carlton Life Member AACA 44 year member MAFCA Editor of The Restorer magazine, official publication of MAFCA 12 years Life Member Dallas Model A Ford Club (44 years) 23 year member & founder Lone Star Model A Ford Club Chairman 35th Model A Ford Texas Tour 1998 (state convention) Chairman 42nd Model A Ford Texas Tour 2005 (state convention) Charter Member Ford Model AA Truck Club If you aren't driving your antique car frequently, you might as well be collecting clocks!!!

04-30-2013, 06:56 PM	#4
raprice Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elwood, NY Posts: 299	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... I have whitewalls on my '30 Model A, but they were on the car when I bought it. They were brand new at the time. When I replace the tires, they will be blackwalls as they were when the car was new. Rog

04-30-2013, 06:59 PM	#5
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... Need some education here. Were whitewalls not an option in the 30's? __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

04-30-2013, 07:01 PM	#6
ctvpa Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 479	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yes, they came with blackwalls. But they also came with no bumpers. How many have added that option, just like whitewalls were 'an option'. I have blackwalls on my roadster, and whitewalls on my Tudor. I saw a 30 deluxe roadster with a cream body and tan fenders, not for me, but I have to say it looked nice. It's your choice.

04-30-2013, 07:04 PM	#7
Hicktick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hickory Tavern , SC Posts: 422	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... I don't like whitewalls on an A , but to each , his own . Whitewalls do look good on a big Packard.

04-30-2013, 07:14 PM	#8
whirnot Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bend Or. Posts: 1,057	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... No comment __________________ Bill Worden 1929 Roadster 1929 Briggs Town Sedan 1930 Closed Cab pickup Smith Motor Compressor 1951 Ford F1 High Desert Model A's

04-30-2013, 07:17 PM	#9
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... My Town Sedan came with whitewalls. They are now yellow, on one side only, oddly enough. When I need new tires, I will get blackwalls, but I can live with the whitewalls. I have seen period photos of cars with whitewalls. To each his own.

04-30-2013, 07:23 PM	#10
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... Are "we" KRANKIN' about this again? Freedom is all about choice!! Some must be really BORED, don't you need to wax the car, take out the trash, fix the toilet, brush the Dog's teeth, pet the Cat, oil the pulley on the well rope, wash your coffee mugs, oil the Oogah Horn, throw away the BEER cans, or sumpthin' useful?? Buster T. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

04-30-2013, 07:26 PM	#11
midgetracer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bismarck ND Posts: 1,189	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... Politics, Religion and tire choice should be up to the individual person. Why do I hear people concerned about how my car looks. To each his own I say!! I apologize to no one for how my cars look and try to see the good in all Model As. This subject should be banned.

04-30-2013, 07:36 PM	#12
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... These are reasons that have kept me from shows and clubs. There are all ways some that think they know how everyone's cars should look. These are allso reasons why I think more and more are staying away from restoration folks.

04-30-2013, 07:50 PM	#15
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... I definately agree whiewalls look bad, but they cost more so some have to show they can splurge dispite the terrible appearance. Just my thoughts. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

04-30-2013, 07:57 PM	#16
Rock Hornbuckle Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Noxon Montana Posts: 532	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... I once had a fat girlfriend that had whitewalls, I traded her for a skinny one with blackwalls! __________________ '31 Fordor Deluxe 2W Briggs 170-B / blackwalls '41 Fordor Deluxe / 2-duece flattie '66 1/2 Dodge Charger '14 100th Anniversary Challenger Limited Edition. Semper Fidelis

04-30-2013, 08:06 PM	#17
amdriven2liv Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Vancouver, Wa. Posts: 96	Re: time for another whitewall rant...... So, I haven't even picked up the A we are getting. It has "white walls" on as she sits. Is this what I get to hear if I show up this summer at an event? Doesn't sound too fun.