Model A Fords and Ford 2.0 and 2.3 engines

[Flathead]

You bring up some good points Denis. I have a Hot Rod 31 A-V8 roadster, and a STOCK 30 Tudor. Personally, I don't want to mix the two. I like this forum for talk on the stock, not modified A's, although it does get kind of murky sometimes with alternators, overdrives, and electronic stuff, etc.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by denis4x4

Too bad these guys are bad mouthing those of us with creative juices!

I think it's more a matter of the fact that there are MANY places to go on the web for Hot Rods and severe mods for a car. The same cannot be said for stock or near stock Model A's.

The "bad mouthing" of those with "creative juices" comes from the wanting to protect one of the very few places where stock questions can be asked and answered.

The best answers for questions is to go where there are the most people of the same mind set. I can ask guys about cars as the escort their wifes to a quilting show, but I'm more likley to get better answers at a car show!!

[Bassman/NZ]

I see it from this perspective. This forum, and the early V8 forum, are about making our As and V8s better. Installing a Pinto in a Model A is not making it better, it's a retrograde step. The Pinto might have more hp, but it doesn't have enough low end torque to pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Someone in this part of the world briefly made full fendered glass A roadsters with Pinto running gear (or our local equivalent) and they were awful.

[Mike Mc]

Gidday Bassman. Who made those? I'm assuming that if we're talking Pinto down here it would have been the 2.0 litre Cortina motor.

One of the neighbours in my sub division had a fibreglass, Roadster rod, but its an 8 cyl. Looks good for what it is, but I'm glad he hadn't done it to an original Roadster

Cheers
Mike.

[kenparker]

BTW, gang. The Model A chassi followed me home two weeks ago. It was the leftovers from a hotrodder who is using the body for something else. I am/was looking for alternatives to getting a motor for the chassi so I could drive it up and down the street and chase dogs . Eventually it will have some kind of Model A body on it or maybe I can build anothe speedster from scratch. I have plenty of Model A blocks for future motor rebuilds, but, over $3000 to have a motor rebuilt is not in the cards right now.

But for you purist I have an all stock 28 pickup I cna play with, an almost stock 31 coupe and am almost finished with the 31 S/W, plus the 1928 speedster.

And thank you denis4x4 for your comments. You are absolutely correct.

[Dan Baron]

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Ken and others shouldn't be asking purist how to hot rod their model A's. They should just go to the H.A.M.B site. Hot rodders would love to tell you how to rod the A's. In my opinion, this site is for tech help....

[1931 flamingo]

More fuel, if your chassis is bare I would consider swapping eng AND trans and convert ORIGINAL r/end to o/drive (kit is avail=speedway motors). JMO
Paul in CT Body would still mount w/full hood. Could leave e/thing else "original"

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

05-24-2010, 12:19 AM #5 Ryan
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The ford barn will focus on restoration... And stock fords. We might have a side bar here and there, but restoration will remain the focus.

Once the novelty wears off the new format, we will start pointing more in that direction.
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Denis & Jordan, ...if you go back and look, I did not condemn anyone or offer any opinion regarding installing a Pinto engine in a Model A. All I did was offer a slightly humorous point of view (note the big smiley face) regarding why Ken likely received the scorns that he did.

I WILL say that Ryan has made it 'crystal clear' what purpose this forum is intended for. If you feel those who defended this purpose are being unfair, ...consider taking it up privately with Ryan since he is the owner but please don't condem those who are making a stand for what they feel is right and are just following the rules.

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[csporty]

Gents, The man asked a simple question and was seeking an answer to something that had been discussed on the old Barn. If you don't have positive input or an answer to his question please resist the temptation to post snide remarks.
If this forum is strictly for stock model A's then don't discuss 12 volt batteries, alternators, V8 clutches, A/C, hydraulic brakes, turn signals, halogen light bulbs, down draft carburetors, synchronized transmissions, insert bearings etc.

Just my $.02

[David Conwill]

Originally Posted by csporty

Gents, The man asked a simple question and was seeking an answer to something that had been discussed on the old Barn. If you don't have positive input or an answer to his question please resist the temptation to post snide remarks.
If this forum is strictly for stock model A's then don't discuss 12 volt batteries, alternators, V8 clutches, A/C, hydraulic brakes, turn signals, halogen light bulbs, down draft carburetors, synchronized transmissions, insert bearings etc.

Just my $.02

I did not mean to imply that I disapproved of the proposed modification. But I think it was made pretty clear when the board changed hands that modifications outside of the period correct (i.e. Cragar head, speedster building) or "touring" (insert bearings, hydraulic brakes) realm now belong on the HAMB. Not everyone heard that, so I just provided the gentleman a link.

-Dave

[Greg way out West]

Hi guy's,



Pinto engine in a Model A ,,Yes we've seem a few..Doe's anybody remember the Pinto with the A or B engine in it ?. I remember it was at one of the swap meet's in Long Beach ( Cal ) back in the 80's



Now that's insanity !!

Greg way out west

[gweilbaker]

But a Burtz mill, A/C, and tube shocks are OK?

As my Dad's last words, "un-believable"

GW

[Ron Barber]

Originally Posted by Ron in Quincy

Why put this kind of garbage on this forum; most of us like to keep our A's with a 4 cylinder A or B engine.

Sorry thats how I feel !!!!!

Ron

Take your question to a forum that doesn't restore Model A's

[fordcragar]

Originally Posted by Greg way out West

Hi guy's,



Pinto engine in a Model A ,,Yes we've seem a few..Doe's anybody remember the Pinto with the A or B engine in it ?. I remember it was at one of the swap meet's in Long Beach ( Cal ) back in the 80's



Now that's insanity !!

Greg way out west

This Pinto was featured in one of the car magazines back then.

[Logan]

Ok boys time to lay off a little. If the pinto engine isnt for your car, then why does it matter what Ken is putting in his? He's paying for it isnt it. And by all yalls replies it isnt going to make this thread go away any faster, it will only keep going to the top.

As for me i dont care if he puts a pinto in his car. It really is a good alternative engine swap. Ken-you can use your 2.3 L, but in reality i would only use one to pull an auto-matic tranny. If you can find a 2.0 L and go with that. They seem to fit better inside the engine compartment, and pull a '39 tranny quite well. Now for this set up you should get a 4.11 rear end or put some 16 inch wheels on the car. 14-15 inch work better with a stock rear end, but for era accesory wheels, its hard to find the 14-15 inch sizes. Call up Dick Sparks he can give you some info on where he got all his parts and conversion peices from, and i beleive he is in your neck of the woods. Fella's you have to remember its not like he's putting a chevy 350 in the car. He could take a pinto engine back out, and within hours have the model a engine back in. theres is no alternations needed to be done to the frame, unless an automatic tranny is used. You can still use stock engine mounts.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Logan

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Ok boys time to lay off a little.

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Wow Logan, I need to offer my sincere apologies to you and the others as I must confess that did not realize you were an appointed Fordbarn Moderator. In your official capacity, would offer your opinion on what Ryan meant when he gave this directive please? Thank you.

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[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Wow Logan, I need to offer my sincere apologies to you and the others as I must confess that did not realize you were an appointed Fordbarn Moderator. In your official capacity, would offer your opinion on what Ryan meant when he gave this directive please? Thank you.

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maybe logan is vice president?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Wow Logan, I need to offer my sincere apologies to you and the others as I must confess that did not realize you were an appointed Fordbarn Moderator. In your official capacity, would offer your opinion on what Ryan meant when he gave this directive please? Thank you.

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I probably got the position the same time you were given it, when you decided the thread needed to be shut down the other day....btw brent not everything i say is directed towards you.

[amodel25]

he he he he he he

[Bassman/NZ]

Originally Posted by Mike Mc

Gidday Bassman. Who made those? I'm assuming that if we're talking Pinto down here it would have been the 2.0 litre Cortina motor.

One of the neighbours in my sub division had a fibreglass, Roadster rod, but its an 8 cyl. Looks good for what it is, but I'm glad he hadn't done it to an original Roadster

Cheers
Mike.

Mike.... I dont know who made them, but there was one for sale here a few months back. Your assumption would be correct.