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09-01-2014, 02:18 PM | #1 |
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Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
Got the time and tools but need the wood plans for a 1928 Briggs Fordor, where can I get them?
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09-01-2014, 02:38 PM | #2 |
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Re: Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
Dad has some wood pieces for a 1929 60-B he would sell for patterns. Not enough for a complete car, but possibly a start. Looking for good stuff for patterns is a real pain. Be thankfull that even the pieces you can not get patterns for are atleast available from the parts suppliers unlike a lot of the wood for the back and floor of the 1929 130-A Delivery and some other bodies. Rod
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09-01-2014, 02:39 PM | #3 |
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Re: Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
You can't-that is the short answer. Here is the long one. How much wood do you have and is it patternable? If not you can get the wood from a vendor but I hear they need a bit of work to fit snuggly. You can try Dan Gambill who is the pres. of the Town Sedan Club at [email protected]. If you need just a few pieces Dan showed a video of Brothers A Wood in Mesa Az. There they will do individual pieces, no idea how good they are. But the Dan has worked with them. If you are made of money you can get the original drawings from the Benson Archives. Hope this helps.
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09-02-2014, 12:23 AM | #4 |
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Re: Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
When I priced the wood for my leatherback it was over $4500!
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09-02-2014, 06:50 AM | #5 |
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Sorry there are no plans available for the wood you need.
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09-02-2014, 11:23 AM | #7 | |
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I've been around these forums and magazines for years and never have I read of a source of drawing or even a list of drawing numbers needed for each body style. A search on this site will show the lack of drawings or numbers. Do I see a potential for another research project?
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09-02-2014, 11:43 AM | #8 |
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Re: Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
I went through this on my 30 Briggs T.S. And as Fiddly Bits says $4500 was more than I wanted to spend. Actually, I did spend $1800 on the top wood and the sills. I made the rest using the old wood for a pattern. Just to be authentic, I cut down a big Ash tree that was in my back yard and had it milled into planks. According to Brent Terry, The Benson Ford has, at least, some drawings. but they get $25 per PAGE to reproduce them.
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09-02-2014, 05:05 PM | #9 |
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I made everypiece of my 29 leatherback from wood parts off the car. It was nice to have the orig parts but in the end the only part that matters is the fit of the metal parts, Don't get too hung up on accuracy of the wood.
I do have a rear header that is usable plus complete front seat parts for sale. Bill G |
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09-02-2014, 09:29 PM | #11 |
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Brent, Are all the joints dry and free to flex or are they glued and screwed? Bob
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09-03-2014, 07:00 AM | #12 |
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Rightly or wrongly, I screwed and glued mine. About the accuracy of the wood. it's best to duplicate the size and shape as closely as possible. I shot for plus or minus .015 (1/64 th) on all surfaces. Someone on FB had an original print and it called for + or - .010. That's pretty close for wood. I checked some original pieces and on nominal sizes (1", 1 1/4", 1 1/2" etc) after 80 some years, the sizes were well within tolerances. That Ash seems not to move around very much. I used a vernier and a angle gauge. I kept it "period correct" by using slotted head wood screws. Be careful about drilling your holes and leaving enough to give the threads plenty of wood to grab.Then drill out your clearance hole for the shank of the screw. Wax your screws with a furniture wax (Not Pledge or any water based wax) such as Butcher's wax (google) This will help the screw thread it's way into the wood much easier.
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I agree with Terry and that's the way I did mine. I just ment that you can go too far with accuracy. Of coarse it all has to fit to allow doors mouldings and up holstry to fit.
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IT was a happy coincidence, that's all. The tree had to come down and it was about the same time. I did not sacrifice the tree just to make parts. In my old FB name, Terry, NJ you can see the log on my truck as it's going to the mill, Heacock sawmill, a few miles north of Doylestown, Pa, On rt 611. They charged me $35 to saw an approximately 2 ft Dia log into various thicknesses. I don't know how many are aware of this, but Ash is threatened by the Asiatic Emerald Borer, All my Ash trees are showing signs of stress from this latest insidious pest from China.
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Having installed all new wood and spent what felt like an eternity shaping it to fit, today I'm happy I followed Brent's advice to do job given the condition of my car. But Terry your job takes the cake hands down.
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09-03-2014, 12:58 PM | #18 |
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I cut up three logs from that tree and I sell a thick plank (over 1 1/2 " thick) X8 - 10 ft for $30 and a thin one (Under 1 1/2") for $25. But before you pay shipping on that, Go look in the phone book for sawmills. Someone will have some Ash laying around.
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Re: Looking for 1928 Briggs Fordor wood plans.
The local threshing club has a sawmill and will cut logs for people. They keep half the wood for the service.
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09-03-2014, 01:25 PM | #20 |
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I don't know where you are at. But my family's business all ways has tons of ash. We make windmill sucker rod.
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