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Canton_Model_A's · 02-22-2024, 09:59 AM

Does anyone here have a source for the Model 'A' Toolbox that came with the car. This would be the wooden one. I have 90% of the tools that go into it. Another thought would be, does anyone have the dimensions of the box and I can build it from Oak wood.

From pictures I have seen online (Yes, google was a friend here) it appears that there is velcro straps and like a foam back.

I am trying to put this together for the next car show.

Thanks!

Dave

https://www.mafca.com/tools/display.jpg

LeonardS · 02-22-2024, 10:04 AM

That looks like Velcro in the photo you posted, but there wouldn’t have been Velcro in the original tool kit.

Canton_Model_A's · 02-22-2024, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonardS

That looks like Velcro in the photo you posted, but there wouldn’t have been Velcro in the original tool kit.

What is funny, as you can tell from the link, that is from the MAFCA site. Not sure if the Judging standards would allow that. What held in the tools on the original box. Would like to make it as authentic as possible within reason.

Thanks!

Dave

LeonardS · 02-22-2024, 10:49 AM

I’ve never seen an original, but maybe it would have small leather straps with buckles? That would seem more period correct.

katy · 02-22-2024, 11:17 AM

The copy of "Judging Standards" (2011) that I have doesn't show a wooden toolbox, only a tool bag, plus the tools.

ModelA29 · 02-22-2024, 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katy

The copy of "Judging Standards" (2011) that I have doesn't show a wooden toolbox, only a tool bag, plus the tools.

Yes tool bag to toss under seat not a big wooden box with tools neatly displayed.

Bob Johnson · 02-22-2024, 12:45 PM

The Model As did not come with a wooden box for the tools. There was a Tool Bag made from rubber cotton fabric, top material, whipcord or artificial leather. The wooden boxes you see today are used to transport the tools. When the tools are judged they are spread out on a table.

Bob Johnson

Canton_Model_A's · 02-22-2024, 12:52 PM

I see. I guess what I am looking for is the wooden box to transport the tools.

ddelproop · 02-22-2024, 01:40 PM

I have a spin-off question and/or assumption.

The bag is small so I assume the other tools were just tossed under the seat?

If under the seat the tools would just rattle around on the floor pan?

Any ideas?

nkaminar · 02-22-2024, 02:32 PM

My idea is to turn your hearing aids off so the noisy rattling doesn't bother you. Anyway, that is what I do.

Gene F · 02-22-2024, 02:47 PM

The box shown is a display box, and I see those every once in a while with a Model-A at cruise-ins, and car shows. The vinyal tool pouch is avaialble at Snyders. The one I have is really old. My grandfather made it, he was an upholsterer. He made wing covers, and covered bomber seats and stuff for Curtis-Wright, and then Rockwell Aviation.

Joe K · 02-22-2024, 06:36 PM

As I understand it, Ford made the bags from "top materials, or whatever was handy and excess at the time." There doesn't seems to have been a standard size.

Most of the repops use top material.

Restorer article
HENDERSON, BILL
"Model A Tool Bags," illus, Nov-Dec 2015 (60-4) p 11-13

MARC article
MARC Sept/Oct 2009 p.18 Misc: Model A tool bags

Joe K

Gene F · 02-22-2024, 07:35 PM

Mine is material such as that.

02-22-2024, 09:59 AM	#1
Canton_Model_A's Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Canton, Michigan Posts: 118	1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) Does anyone here have a source for the Model 'A' Toolbox that came with the car. This would be the wooden one. I have 90% of the tools that go into it. Another thought would be, does anyone have the dimensions of the box and I can build it from Oak wood. From pictures I have seen online (Yes, google was a friend here) it appears that there is velcro straps and like a foam back. I am trying to put this together for the next car show. Thanks! Dave https://www.mafca.com/tools/display.jpg __________________ --------------------------------------- 1929 Model A Tudor "Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution" Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Motor City A's Club Last edited by Canton_Model_A's; 02-22-2024 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Added Image of Toolbox

02-22-2024, 10:04 AM	#2
LeonardS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jamestown, ND Posts: 657	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) That looks like Velcro in the photo you posted, but there wouldn’t have been Velcro in the original tool kit.

02-22-2024, 10:49 AM	#4
LeonardS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jamestown, ND Posts: 657	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) I’ve never seen an original, but maybe it would have small leather straps with buckles? That would seem more period correct.

02-22-2024, 11:17 AM	#5
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,046	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) The copy of "Judging Standards" (2011) that I have doesn't show a wooden toolbox, only a tool bag, plus the tools. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

02-22-2024, 12:45 PM	#7
Bob Johnson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: California Posts: 979	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) The Model As did not come with a wooden box for the tools. There was a Tool Bag made from rubber cotton fabric, top material, whipcord or artificial leather. The wooden boxes you see today are used to transport the tools. When the tools are judged they are spread out on a table. Bob Johnson Last edited by Bob Johnson; 02-22-2024 at 12:50 PM. Reason: Add picture

02-22-2024, 12:52 PM	#8
Canton_Model_A's Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Canton, Michigan Posts: 118	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) I see. I guess what I am looking for is the wooden box to transport the tools. __________________ --------------------------------------- 1929 Model A Tudor "Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution" Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Motor City A's Club

02-22-2024, 01:40 PM	#9
ddelproop Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 48	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) I have a spin-off question and/or assumption. The bag is small so I assume the other tools were just tossed under the seat? If under the seat the tools would just rattle around on the floor pan? Any ideas?

02-22-2024, 02:32 PM	#10
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,900	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) My idea is to turn your hearing aids off so the noisy rattling doesn't bother you. Anyway, that is what I do. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

02-22-2024, 02:47 PM	#11
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) The box shown is a display box, and I see those every once in a while with a Model-A at cruise-ins, and car shows. The vinyal tool pouch is avaialble at Snyders. The one I have is really old. My grandfather made it, he was an upholsterer. He made wing covers, and covered bomber seats and stuff for Curtis-Wright, and then Rockwell Aviation.

02-22-2024, 06:36 PM	#12
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) As I understand it, Ford made the bags from "top materials, or whatever was handy and excess at the time." There doesn't seems to have been a standard size. Most of the repops use top material. Restorer article HENDERSON, BILL "Model A Tool Bags," illus, Nov-Dec 2015 (60-4) p 11-13 MARC article MARC Sept/Oct 2009 p.18 Misc: Model A tool bags Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

02-22-2024, 07:35 PM	#13
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: 1929 Model 'A' Toolbox (Wooden Kind) Mine is material such as that.