The Ford Barn

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:01 PM

Got some paint on the majority of the engine. Still have to do the goosenecks and the waterpump/crankshaft pulleys. Then as soon as I can get the oil pan off, I'll clean that and paint. Then what to put it in....

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:03 PM

Pictures are upside down? Oh well.

scicala · 03-22-2017, 06:08 PM

Looks nice ! You better put it in something with strong front springs. I hear those babies weigh about 1000 Lbs.

Sal

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:11 PM

Yeah, I think right now it will go in a Ford MH f-5 that my friend is giving me.

JSeery · 03-22-2017, 06:18 PM

For those who like the world right side up.

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:24 PM

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Oh wow thanks! They are oriented correctly on my iPad, not sure why the automatically flip when I put them on the web...

corvette8n · 03-22-2017, 06:35 PM

Nice job, now to get it installed and running.

tubman · 03-22-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot31135

Oh wow thanks! They are oriented correctly on my iPad, not sure why the automatically flip when I put them on the web...

I am not trying to be flippant here, but I see this happening more often than not. What would happen if you held your phone upside down when you sent the pictures? Those things have a mind of their own when it comes to image orientation. (I'd try it myself, but my "flip-fone" always send them the right way.)

JSeery · 03-22-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot31135

Oh wow thanks! They are oriented correctly on my iPad, not sure why the automatically flip when I put them on the web...

Think it's a Mac thing, I see it a lot in other places as well.

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman

I am not trying to be flippant here, but I see this happening more often than not. What would happen if you held your phone upside down when you sent the pictures? Those things have a mind of their own when it comes to image orientation. (I'd try it myself, but my "flip-fone" always send them the right way.)

Reasonable point, however my iPad is not a phone, I'm not sure holding it upside down would make a difference. As I stated, the photos orient correctly on the iPad when viewed, they download correctly to the site but when you submit the post, they seem to reorient. The "before" photos did orient correctly. I'm not a computer wiz but another member got them right for me.

Pilot31135 · 03-22-2017, 06:54 PM

As an old friend of mine says, "Hard tellin, not knowin."

fordlovr · 03-23-2017, 02:44 AM

Those 1st pics look fine from down here!!

Ol' Ron · 03-23-2017, 08:56 AM

Might work well on a boat??

Zephyr Q · 03-23-2017, 09:24 AM

My flathead knowledge is lacking compared to most on this board but I am well versed on the dark arts of technology. So perhaps I can shed some light on the mysteries of photos that auto-flip.

When most smart devices (phones, tablets, and even some nicer models of cameras) take photos they store information about how the device was oriented at the time the photo was taken (as well as lots of other information). To display the photo correctly the application needs to process these non-photographic "meta-tags". Unfortunately many applications either ignore, or mis-interpret this information and you end up with mis-oriented photos.

Now back on topic -- I look forward to seeing some photos of the F-5, that's a project I'd love to take on if only I had the available parking in my driveway.

Pilot31135 · 03-23-2017, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

Might work well on a boat??

I heard someone say "the best days of boat ownership is the day you bring it home, and more importantlly, the day you sell it."

Pilot31135 · 03-23-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

Might work well on a boat??

Your right, flatheads do make nice boat motors!

Pilot31135 · 03-27-2017, 05:50 AM

Got the oil pan off yesterday, I was happily surprised there wasn't a lot of sludge. The engine had been rebuilt at one time, as there are numbers punched into the rods. Got some paint on the pan, pictures to follow. The sump is made of aluminum. Not sure if it's a replacement sump or not, but certainly strong!

Paul Bennett · 03-27-2017, 03:07 PM

Please educate my about that engine. What is a 337 out of and is the distributor at the rear standard?

scicala · 03-27-2017, 03:32 PM

The 337 was used in Lincolns from '49 thru '51, and also in heavy trucks with governor and special distributor. Yes, as far as I know, the distributors were in the back on all.

Sal

Pilot31135 · 03-30-2017, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scicala

The 337 was used in Lincolns from '49 thru '51, and also in heavy trucks with governor and special distributor. Yes, as far as I know, the distributors were in the back on all.

Sal

To be more specific the 1948-1951 Ford F-7 and F-8 series trucks.

Jason in TX · 03-30-2017, 03:22 PM

Engine looks awesome!

The upside down picture is due to the gyroscope in the ipad and the fact that you are standing above the object looking down. The gyroscope has not been set to horizon when picking up the ipad.
Be sure to look at the picture of the camera on the screen before you hit the button to make sure the ipad is in the right orientation when you pick it up off the table. You can see that little camera rotate orientation as you rotate your ipad.

Before taking a standing picture of the floor, first point the ipad at the wall to orient the ipad to what is up and then tilt down. That should fix the problem with up-side-down pics.

mountstimothy0 · 03-30-2017, 04:08 PM

Beautiful engine. Inspires me to go out in garage and work on mine

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Pilot31135 · 04-01-2017, 03:06 PM

Wanted to go and put the oil pan and sump back on, but it's snowing and cold! Not an April fools day joke either.

Pilot31135 · 04-02-2017, 06:07 AM

I had someone ask about my color choice, well it's certainly not stock. First what color was it supposed to be? The block was a dark red. I believe that was correct for a Ford motor. However, the heads and intake were later model ford blue. And that seems reasonable as the motor had been rebuilt one time. When I pulled the oil pan to clean, paint, and reseal I could see the numbers punched into the rods. Now a Lincoln engine would have been a light Lincoln green.
Now what I ended up with was "Red Annodized". I primed the block which was light gray then when I started painting the red, it went on in a strange way. I read the can between the 2nd and 3rd coats (shoulda done that first) and it says to spray over chrome! Well it was kinda too late for that. There was only one thing to do.....keep painting. Anyhow, I'm actually happy it worked out this way. I like the dark maroon end result. The gray on the goosenecks and oil filter housing are "new ford gray".

Pilot31135 · 04-02-2017, 04:15 PM

Pan is on.

Pilot31135 · 04-13-2017, 03:56 PM

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Well I had a sticky valve after all. It runs good now but I have to go back into the valvetrain and adjust the valves. Apparently, the previous owner thought the lifter nose was acceptable...also had a lot of MMO to burn off so lots of smoke.
Here's where the video is, can't seem to post here...

https://youtu.be/obKvw8u7ZUc

Fredb_ · 04-13-2017, 05:29 PM

Sounds pretty good, but my eyes hurt now

JSeery · 04-13-2017, 05:58 PM

I just think this engine is going to work better in this orientation!

Pilot31135 · 04-13-2017, 07:00 PM

Ha, I agree! Poor computer skills on my part. Thank You!

JSeery · 04-13-2017, 07:04 PM

Just trying to keep the oil from running out.

Pilot31135 · 04-14-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

Just trying to keep the oil from running out.

Sweet! :

scicala · 04-14-2017, 05:06 PM

I thought the 337 Lincolns had hydraulic lifters. Not sure, but if they do, I agree it's pretty noisy for hydraulics.

Sal

Pilot31135 · 04-14-2017, 05:12 PM

This one is definitely not hydraulic lifters. But there are two sets of valve lash settings plus a third for the hydraulic lifters! I guess I'll try the "tighter" settings.

Pilot31135 · 08-14-2017, 06:00 PM

Got the lifter adjusted and also replaced one bad valve spring. Runs even better now, and with no lifter noise.

https://youtu.be/98QTuP1tTic

"Are you ignorant or apathetic? I don't know and I don't care."

38 coupe · 08-19-2017, 09:08 AM

That sounds a lot better, runs nicely now.

I just noticed the generator stand in the photo of your first post. Did that go to some sort of extra large generator? I like old large capacity generators.

Pilot31135 · 08-21-2017, 05:17 AM

The generator was missing when I got the engine. I checked the part number for an original generator for the big trucks. It is different than say an 8ba flathead. However I had an 8ba generator here and tried it. It fit fine and I could have used it. I have kept the old generator stand and can reinstall it if I choose to. The alternator was one I had and the alternator bracket fits an 8 ba flathead.

"Are you ignorant or apathetic? I don't know and I don't care."

03-22-2017, 06:08 PM	#3
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: 337 Flathead Looks nice ! You better put it in something with strong front springs. I hear those babies weigh about 1000 Lbs. Sal

03-22-2017, 06:11 PM	#4
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Yeah, I think right now it will go in a Ford MH f-5 that my friend is giving me.

03-22-2017, 06:24 PM	#6
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Oh wow thanks! They are oriented correctly on my iPad, not sure why the automatically flip when I put them on the web...

03-22-2017, 06:35 PM	#7
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,950	Re: 337 Flathead Nice job, now to get it installed and running.

03-22-2017, 06:54 PM	#11
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead As an old friend of mine says, "Hard tellin, not knowin."

03-23-2017, 02:44 AM	#12
fordlovr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Rangiora,New Zealand Posts: 162	Re: 337 Flathead Those 1st pics look fine from down here!!

03-23-2017, 08:56 AM	#13
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: 337 Flathead Might work well on a boat??

03-23-2017, 09:24 AM	#14
Zephyr Q Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: The City of Angels, CA Posts: 62	Re: 337 Flathead My flathead knowledge is lacking compared to most on this board but I am well versed on the dark arts of technology. So perhaps I can shed some light on the mysteries of photos that auto-flip. When most smart devices (phones, tablets, and even some nicer models of cameras) take photos they store information about how the device was oriented at the time the photo was taken (as well as lots of other information). To display the photo correctly the application needs to process these non-photographic "meta-tags". Unfortunately many applications either ignore, or mis-interpret this information and you end up with mis-oriented photos. Now back on topic -- I look forward to seeing some photos of the F-5, that's a project I'd love to take on if only I had the available parking in my driveway.

03-27-2017, 05:50 AM	#17
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Got the oil pan off yesterday, I was happily surprised there wasn't a lot of sludge. The engine had been rebuilt at one time, as there are numbers punched into the rods. Got some paint on the pan, pictures to follow. The sump is made of aluminum. Not sure if it's a replacement sump or not, but certainly strong!

03-27-2017, 03:07 PM	#18
Paul Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 628	Re: 337 Flathead Please educate my about that engine. What is a 337 out of and is the distributor at the rear standard?

03-27-2017, 03:32 PM	#19
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: 337 Flathead The 337 was used in Lincolns from '49 thru '51, and also in heavy trucks with governor and special distributor. Yes, as far as I know, the distributors were in the back on all. Sal

03-30-2017, 03:22 PM	#21
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: 337 Flathead Engine looks awesome! The upside down picture is due to the gyroscope in the ipad and the fact that you are standing above the object looking down. The gyroscope has not been set to horizon when picking up the ipad. Be sure to look at the picture of the camera on the screen before you hit the button to make sure the ipad is in the right orientation when you pick it up off the table. You can see that little camera rotate orientation as you rotate your ipad. Before taking a standing picture of the floor, first point the ipad at the wall to orient the ipad to what is up and then tilt down. That should fix the problem with up-side-down pics. __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

03-30-2017, 04:08 PM	#22
mountstimothy0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 148	Re: 337 Flathead Beautiful engine. Inspires me to go out in garage and work on mine Sent from my LG-K371 using Tapatalk

04-01-2017, 03:06 PM	#23
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Wanted to go and put the oil pan and sump back on, but it's snowing and cold! Not an April fools day joke either.

04-02-2017, 06:07 AM	#24
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead I had someone ask about my color choice, well it's certainly not stock. First what color was it supposed to be? The block was a dark red. I believe that was correct for a Ford motor. However, the heads and intake were later model ford blue. And that seems reasonable as the motor had been rebuilt one time. When I pulled the oil pan to clean, paint, and reseal I could see the numbers punched into the rods. Now a Lincoln engine would have been a light Lincoln green. Now what I ended up with was "Red Annodized". I primed the block which was light gray then when I started painting the red, it went on in a strange way. I read the can between the 2nd and 3rd coats (shoulda done that first) and it says to spray over chrome! Well it was kinda too late for that. There was only one thing to do.....keep painting. Anyhow, I'm actually happy it worked out this way. I like the dark maroon end result. The gray on the goosenecks and oil filter housing are "new ford gray".

04-13-2017, 03:56 PM	#26
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Well I had a sticky valve after all. It runs good now but I have to go back into the valvetrain and adjust the valves. Apparently, the previous owner thought the lifter nose was acceptable...also had a lot of MMO to burn off so lots of smoke. Here's where the video is, can't seem to post here... https://youtu.be/obKvw8u7ZUc

04-13-2017, 05:29 PM	#27
Fredb_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Coos Bay, OR Posts: 640	Re: 337 Flathead Sounds pretty good, but my eyes hurt now

04-13-2017, 07:00 PM	#29
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Ha, I agree! Poor computer skills on my part. Thank You!

04-13-2017, 07:04 PM	#30
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 337 Flathead Just trying to keep the oil from running out.

04-14-2017, 05:06 PM	#32
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: 337 Flathead I thought the 337 Lincolns had hydraulic lifters. Not sure, but if they do, I agree it's pretty noisy for hydraulics. Sal

04-14-2017, 05:12 PM	#33
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead This one is definitely not hydraulic lifters. But there are two sets of valve lash settings plus a third for the hydraulic lifters! I guess I'll try the "tighter" settings.

08-14-2017, 06:00 PM	#34
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead Got the lifter adjusted and also replaced one bad valve spring. Runs even better now, and with no lifter noise. https://youtu.be/98QTuP1tTic "Are you ignorant or apathetic? I don't know and I don't care."

08-19-2017, 09:08 AM	#35
38 coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Texas Posts: 1,631	Re: 337 Flathead That sounds a lot better, runs nicely now. I just noticed the generator stand in the photo of your first post. Did that go to some sort of extra large generator? I like old large capacity generators.

08-21-2017, 05:17 AM	#36
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: 337 Flathead The generator was missing when I got the engine. I checked the part number for an original generator for the big trucks. It is different than say an 8ba flathead. However I had an 8ba generator here and tried it. It fit fine and I could have used it. I have kept the old generator stand and can reinstall it if I choose to. The alternator was one I had and the alternator bracket fits an 8 ba flathead. "Are you ignorant or apathetic? I don't know and I don't care."