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aermotor · 07-25-2022, 11:22 AM

Does it make a difference how far out on the tire to make the measurement side wall to side wall?

nkaminar · 07-25-2022, 12:34 PM

Yes. The 1/16 is measured at a point about half way between the rim and the outside diameter of the tire and at a height of about 10 to 12 inches from the floor. If you measure at the tread and at the 180 degree points it is about 1/8 inch.

BillCNC · 07-25-2022, 03:11 PM

I think the preferred location of measurement is at the 4 & 8 o'clock position which is around where nkaminar said.

Regards
Bill

old ugly · 07-25-2022, 10:31 PM

do you know why you need toe in.

to make up for clearances in the steering components.

with a car being driven down the road the tendency for the front wheels is to be directed/pushed outward from the car.
but
what we want, for a few reasons, is the front wheels to go straight down the road inline with the frame of the car.
so
the amount you set the toe is in direct connection with the the steering componants of your car.
a car with loose tie-rod ends for instance will require more toe to achieve the correct direction the wheels will be pointed when the car is in forward motion.
and
a car with all good steering components will require less toe.

so you need toe-in because of clearances in your cars steering components.

and that's why you need toe-in.

jayvee34 · 07-26-2022, 02:24 PM

Thanks Old Ugly,

makes good sense. Excellent explanation.

aermotor · 07-26-2022, 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by old ugly

do you know why you need toe in.

to make up for clearances in the steering components.

with a car being driven down the road the tendency for the front wheels is to be directed/pushed outward from the car.
but
what we want, for a few reasons, is the front wheels to go straight down the road inline with the frame of the car.
so
the amount you set the toe is in direct connection with the the steering componants of your car.
a car with loose tie-rod ends for instance will require more toe to achieve the correct direction the wheels will be pointed when the car is in forward motion.
and
a car with all good steering components will require less toe.

so you need toe-in because of clearances in your cars steering components.

and that's why you need toe-in.

Is the steering box of a lot of concern?

old ugly · 07-26-2022, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aermotor

Is the steering box of a lot of concern?

not for toe-in

Patrick L. · 07-27-2022, 06:32 PM

The measurements should be taken from the same spot on tires. Such as either, inside, outside or a center mark scribed in the center of each while they are spun.

Always roll the car forward. Put a bit of light arm pressure outward to the front of the tires. The spec is 1/32-1/16"

07-25-2022, 11:22 AM	#1
aermotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,099	toe in Does it make a difference how far out on the tire to make the measurement side wall to side wall?

07-25-2022, 12:34 PM	#2
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,897	Re: toe in Yes. The 1/16 is measured at a point about half way between the rim and the outside diameter of the tire and at a height of about 10 to 12 inches from the floor. If you measure at the tread and at the 180 degree points it is about 1/8 inch. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

07-25-2022, 03:11 PM	#3
BillCNC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: SoCal Desert Posts: 826	Re: toe in I think the preferred location of measurement is at the 4 & 8 o'clock position which is around where nkaminar said. Regards Bill

07-25-2022, 10:31 PM	#4
old ugly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: alberta canada Posts: 585	Re: toe in do you know why you need toe in. to make up for clearances in the steering components. with a car being driven down the road the tendency for the front wheels is to be directed/pushed outward from the car. but what we want, for a few reasons, is the front wheels to go straight down the road inline with the frame of the car. so the amount you set the toe is in direct connection with the the steering componants of your car. a car with loose tie-rod ends for instance will require more toe to achieve the correct direction the wheels will be pointed when the car is in forward motion. and a car with all good steering components will require less toe. so you need toe-in because of clearances in your cars steering components. and that's why you need toe-in. __________________ old ugly my old father-in-law told me. "listen close when people tell you how to do stuff they may know something. then do it the way you want."

07-26-2022, 02:24 PM	#5
jayvee34 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: St. Augustine, Fl. Posts: 437	Re: toe in Thanks Old Ugly, makes good sense. Excellent explanation. __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST - SEMPER FIDELIS John

07-27-2022, 06:32 PM	#8
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: toe in The measurements should be taken from the same spot on tires. Such as either, inside, outside or a center mark scribed in the center of each while they are spun. Always roll the car forward. Put a bit of light arm pressure outward to the front of the tires. The spec is 1/32-1/16" Last edited by Patrick L.; 07-28-2022 at 12:48 PM.