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Old 12-30-2023, 11:34 AM   #1
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I have three reproduction horns that I bought from Al Lepore (A&L). With the covers off, how can I visually determine which horn is 12V and which is 6V?
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Old 12-30-2023, 11:44 AM   #2
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There is no visual way. Hook them to 6-volts and see if they ahooguh, if they don't, hook them to 12-volts and see if they ahooguh.

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I've used this method with the Hutchins horns. 12V horn on 6v sounds like a sick cow.

Start with 6v.

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If you have two horns and one is 6 volt and the other is 12 volt you can compare the windings. The 12 volt will have more windings of a smaller gauge than the 6 volt horn. The wire for the 6 volt horn is usually 20 gauge and for the 12 volt horn it is 24 gauge (smaller). The turns for the 6 volt horn are around 40 whereas for the 12 volt horn it is about 100 turns. You could measure the wire diameter. It would be impossible to measure the turns without taking the horn apart but you could estimate them.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80HheWrv2_s
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A 6 volt one on twelve volts sounds like the recent film Cocaine Bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1wZkMxGGE
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Original 6-volt horn on the left, rewound 12-volt horn on the right. Note the difference in wire thickness, as "nkaminar" points out.
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I have three reproduction horns that I bought from Al Lepore (A&L). With the covers off, how can I visually determine which horn is 12V and which is 6V?
Are you able to post a picture of the motors of the A&L horn?
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Are you able to post a picture of the motors of the A&L horn?
Probably not since he was BANNED.
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Bob Bidonde banned ? What happened ? He was one of the main contributors !!!
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Bob Bidonde banned ? What happened ? He was one of the main contributors !!!
Wow. This is a shock to me as well.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:50 PM   #11
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Now it doesn't show him banned.
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Bob Bidonde banned ? What happened ? He was one of the main contributors !!!
He is not banned. If he was it would say so under his name.
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It did say banned,clearly,right under his name a couple of hours ago.I looked at his past posts,saw nothing to be banned for,and on every one of those he was marked banned too.I kind of figured it was a mistake and now it looks like it has been corrected.
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Maybe they anticipated Bob getting crabby?
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It did say banned, clearly, right under his name a couple of hours ago. I looked at his past posts, saw nothing to be banned for, and on every one of those he was marked banned too. I kind of figured it was a mistake and now it looks like it has been corrected.
He was BANNED and the thread was removed, that is why you can't find it. Maybe it was a warning BAN? I don't know, but as long as Bob has been on Ford Barn he should know that Ryan will not tolerate political posts.
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It did say banned,clearly,right under his name a couple of hours ago.I looked at his past posts,saw nothing to be banned for,and on every one of those he was marked banned too.I kind of figured it was a mistake and now it looks like it has been corrected.
There was that inflation thread a couple days ago that the admin deleted, I assumed it was connected to that.
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IMO cars and politics don't go together. We take turns hosting our monthly club meetings
One member when hosting always feel the need to educate the attending members of his political beliefs. I no longer attend hen that person hosts.
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Old 01-12-2024, 07:59 AM   #18
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Here's a link to our website showing the difference between the 2 different A&L new horns:

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/c...ce_diagram.pdf
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IMO cars and politics don't go together. We take turns hosting our monthly club meetings
One member when hosting always feel the need to educate the attending members of his political beliefs. I no longer attend hen that person hosts.
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Don3527, Thanks for posting the link to the A&L horns. That is exactly what I was looking for.
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