Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat

[Jack Shaft]

usually too lazy to get the offset for the distributor covered head nut..when retorquing I run the wrench through the rest and get a feel of how far Im turning to achieve torque..then do the distributor or the water neck with a wrench..your not seating the gasket,your pulling stretch out of the stud,it doesn't have to be exact..turn the torque wrench 3/4 of a turn? turn the wrench 3/4 of a turn..

[160B]

HOW TO COMPUTE TORQUE WHEN USING ADAPTORS

http://www.torqwrench.com/Info/FAQ.html


If an adaptor or extension is attached to the square drive of a click-type torque wrench and this adds to its length, then the applied torque will be greater than the pre-set torque. A formula can be used to find what the preset-set torque should be in order to obtain the correct applied torque.

the above link has the formula

[LEM]

Here’s a good YouTube explanation using crows foot attached to a torque wrench.

https://youtu.be/tv_KHH55qdQ

[1931 flamingo]

Does anyone realize how many head gaskets have been replaced since 1928 on A's. B's, and V8's WITHOUT a torque wrench and ran just fine??
Paul in CT

[McMimmcs]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

Does anyone realize how many head gaskets have been replaced since 1928 on A's. B's, and V8's WITHOUT a torque wrench and ran just fine??
Paul in CT

My father was considered a very fine mechanic and I don’t remember him ever owning a torque wrench!

[Jack Shaft]

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Ford trained their mechanics to fit and feel.The human body is quite capable at repeating torque applied by hand and through practice can rely on it.

[Ernie Vitucci]

Good Morning...Many of us don't use a gasket on the water outlet. We file them absolutely flat with a big rasp or on a belt sander and then put them on with a light coat of Copper Coat or some such and then tighten them down to 55 pounds. The problem is that the gaskets compress at a different speed under the ears and that is what breaks the ears...Ernie in Arizona

[Patrick L.]

Yup, either a thin-wall or grinding on your own socket. And for the other a crows-foot is fine and won't make much of a difference in the torque to worry about. Its a Model A.

Be very careful of the water spout. That'll break easily if not treated properly.

[burner31]

I just use a wrench on the water neck, but luckily my wrists have been calibrated

[shew01]

This is the water spout I just installed. http://www.vintageprecision.com/prod...ing/index.html

Does anyone know if the ears are weak like the original part?


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[CarlG]

Originally Posted by shew01

This is the water spout I just installed. http://www.vintageprecision.com/prod...ing/index.html

Does anyone know if the ears are weak like the original part?

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The design of the Vintage Precision water neck is much different than the original, as well as it being steel rather than iron. I don't see how it could break.

[Ed in Maine]

If you have some nuts loose, you should drain the coolant so that it does not flow into the crankcase. I have just changed the cylinder head gasket and managed to break the outlet casting. I got a new one from Snyders and they recommend putting a paper match to the outside of the two studs. I used RTV instead of a gasket the second time around and torqued to 50 ft-lbs. No problems so far. Ed

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by CarlG

The design of the Vintage Precision water neck is much different than the original, as well as it being steel rather than iron. I don't see how it could break.

Yes, unfortunately the OP didn't mention he had a Vintage Precision water neck until post #30 so I am afraid some of my responses and responses by others may not be corrector pertain to the Vintage Precision unit. I was thinking he was installing a stock type of neck with the provision for a TI in it.

[Herb Concord Ca]

I have the VP thermostat housing on both my Model A's for 5 years. Both were installed using my Craftsman 3/8" drive 11/16" socket, fits just fine with clearance between the OD of socket and side of thermostat housing.

[stevemclark]

When I started working on this 1930 coupe I found this tool set,ordered it and didn't know what most of it did.I have used all but three of these tools and will use them some day and I know now what they all do, the u shaped tool to torque the nut that hides behind the distributor might fit the pump nuts too.https://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/M1010.html.

[M2M]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

There is a special wrench by Snap-on (if you can find one, they are out of production) or use the "Gyp Part" you get from the vendors.

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/snaponheadwrench.htm

I'd love to find an original Snap-on or Bonney obstruction offset wrench for sale. What sort of money do they go for?

[shew01]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

There is a special wrench by Snap-on (if you can find one, they are out of production) or use the "Gyp Part" you get from the vendors.

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/snaponheadwrench.htm

You don't say what year your car is but I find on the '30-31 a thin walled 12pt ⅜" drive socket will fit the water neck. It is tighter on the '28-29. You may have to pull the distributor...

I ordered one from Bratton’s or Snyder’s, I don’t recall which.


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[M2M]

Originally Posted by shew01

I ordered one from Bratton’s or Snyder’s, I don’t recall which.


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The supplier's version is junk, read what it says about them on that fordgarage link above.

I'd love to find an original Snap-on or Bonney obstruction offset wrench for sale. What sort of money do they go for?

[Phil Brown]

I see the snap-on obstruction wrench's on e-bay regularly in the $20-$40 range.
They never say anything about model A just listed as an 11/16 obstruction wrench

[M2M]

Originally Posted by Phil Brown

I see the snap-on obstruction wrench's on e-bay regularly in the $20-$40 range.
They never say anything about model A just listed as an 11/16 obstruction wrench

Great, thank you. Searched "11/16 obstruction wrench" on ebay and found this 12 point head for a Pontiac for under $20, hope it will do the job.