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11-16-2020, 10:04 PM | #1 |
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Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
I'm considering pressurizing the rocker shafts on my '55 292. I know there are at least a couple of methods, pinching off the shaft drain tubes appearing to be the easiest. My concern is about possibly starving some other part of the engine for oil. It looks like the output of the passenger side shaft goes to the timing chain. I don't know where the oil from the driver side tube goes, distributor/oil pump drive gear maybe...? I'm pretty sure a few guys here have done this so I'd like to know what method you used and the results before I pull the trigger. TIA for any advice.
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11-16-2020, 10:54 PM | #2 |
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Re: Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
a lot of people were doing this for awile.now most have backed away from it.you dont need it for a street engine.
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11-16-2020, 11:02 PM | #3 |
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Re: Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
Check with Tim McMaster (yblockguy). I think he pressurizes them in all of the engines he rebuilds, unless the customer requests otherwise.
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11-17-2020, 12:33 AM | #4 | |
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11-18-2020, 07:01 AM | #5 |
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Just wondering, why do you feel you need to perform this modification?
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11-18-2020, 08:52 AM | #6 |
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11-18-2020, 09:18 AM | #7 |
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Re: Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
Are you pulling the heads during this rocker shaft rebuild? With stock springs, a relatively hot cam you should get years of service from the stock set up.
The problem with oiling the top end is rooted in the oil routing to the head and the fact that older oils used "back in the day" did a really crappy job of keeping the oil clean. The passage for oiling the top end make two 90s on it's way up' The oil hole in the block is off set from the hole in the head. There is a small groove in the head that hooks the two together. That is the culprit. Pull the heads and clean both holes up and down, clean the groove or enlarge the groove slightly and live happily ever after. New oils keep the transfer groove clean a gagillion times better!
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11-18-2020, 09:33 AM | #8 |
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Re: Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
I remember installing bypass lines from the oil gauge to the rocker arm shaft some how, was it through the valve cover ? Its been over forty years and my memory is not so good any more .
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11-18-2020, 10:34 AM | #9 |
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the kit contained a hollow stud to replace the one that held the rocker cover on.this fed oil to the shaft.i put one on back in 69.the right side never got as much oil and was the first to quit.
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11-18-2020, 10:55 AM | #10 |
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Hey Darrell it's been many years, I was just wondering if there was any problems later on with taking so much oil from the rest of the system. I remember it being a 1/8" copper tubing and no restricter.
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The oil hole up thru the block is 5/16, the hole up thru the head is 1/4. Offset from each other approx 1 & 1/2 inches. Depending on how well the head was cast or if it's been resurfaced the groove underneath can be shallower than originally designed. I've seen a couple that made me fairly concerned. I remember removing a pair of head gaskets that had swollen a bit into the groove in the head, making it even smaller. Sludge could then more easily block the passage of oil. I've been meaning to ask if other folks think cutting a small channel out of the head gasket right where the groove is might be a good idea. Last edited by dmsfrr; 11-18-2020 at 05:47 PM. |
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11-18-2020, 03:11 PM | #12 |
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it didnt hurt the oil pressure on my engine at any rate.it still had a good bottom end.most engines who got this were on their last.
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Increasing pressure/flow to the arms will also allow excess oil to drip above the valve seals. FORD in the early Y used deflectors under the stands to divert excess oil to the drainage holes. As for valve springs, it is best as to go with the advice of the cam grinder. The lifter has to follow the ramps on the cam and stronger (better materials) will be needed. Now you are increasing spring temperatures which throws another factor into the equation. Also, valve springs lose temper with mileage, making them weak and leading to mis-fire and valve float/reduced RPM. Even a OEM stock setup will suffer from spring fatigue at some point. |
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11-22-2020, 03:36 PM | #15 |
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Re: Pressurizing Rocker Shafts
Can we all agree that frequent oil changes are cheap, and a great first step?
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