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Old 06-02-2020, 07:05 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I got a few new gaskets sets for trans, steering box, Speedo...... They are made in China with what appears to be cardboard/ cereal boxes. I've read on here guys saying to only use gasket sealant if the mating surface has issues or the gasket leaks. With this cardboard, do you think they will seal fine or should gasket sealant/ dressing be used?
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:25 PM   #2
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Question, where did the gaskets come from? If not a reliable source I would suggest talking to someone like Mac VanPelt or 3rd Generation and getting better parts. I don't think you are going to like it if you have to pull it and redo it later if there is an issue. The steering box gasket have to be specific sizes to set the bearing loads.
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Question, where did the gaskets come from? If not a reliable source I would suggest talking to someone like Mac VanPelt or 3rd Generation and getting better parts. I don't think you are going to like it if you have to pull it and redo it later if there is an issue. The steering box gasket have to be specific sizes to set the bearing loads.

Yes, trying to avoid doing it all again, not that practice isn't good...

Unfortunately Mac auto parts. I tagged them onto an existing order. They had Denise carpenter logo covered up on the packaging.

The steering box top gasket is thick and appears solid but the multiple smaller gaskets to set bearing load are thin brown paper.

At least my banjo gaskets are made by Best gasket.



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Old 06-02-2020, 08:09 PM   #4
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>>>I've read on here guys saying to only use gasket sealant if the mating surface>>>


They look fine. If they were mine, I'd use wheel bearing grease for the sealant. Jack E/NJ
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I have made good gaskets from the sleeve Victor head gaskets came in. Good clean mating surfaces is the key.


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the company I used to work for made the paperboard for gaskets. it was heavily calendared and treated with sizing to resist migration of what ever was being sealed. still have several small rolls of this paper that I make gaskets from now. you can make really good gaskets from krispi kreme doughnut boxes!
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some folks accuse me of liking beer, but really, i just need the boxes for making patterns and occasionally gaskets.
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Those look completely legit and usable. If they dyed the stock red or some other color you wouldn't be skeptical.
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we used to use brown paper bags for thin gaskets. never leaked.
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Those look completely legit and usable. If they dyed the stock red or some other color you wouldn't be skeptical.
Haha so true.
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So just some grease, no permatex sealant/ dressing or such needed?
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So just some grease, no permatex sealant/ dressing or such needed?
For me it would depend on the surfaces........if both sides are smooth and flat, Id use grease....any rough parts or if I questioned a smooth fit....a LITTLE permatex.....Mark
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The thin gaskets are for setting the bearing preload. Do not use gasket sealer.
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You need to be careful using gasket sealer on any application where it can be squeezed into places it can do harm!
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My auto shop instructor, said 60 years ago. a little permatex on the removable part only, to hold the gasket during assembly. Makes life easier when you next work on it.



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I have been using cereal boxes for gasket material since at least 1957.
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Thank you for all the input.
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:34 PM   #18
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I save the backing on a yellow legal tablet for gaskets. The shiny side of cereal boxes, like where it says 'wheaties' always seemed like it wouldn't seal as well as the porous side. The legal cardboard IS a bit thick for some applications, so I like the brown paper bag suggestion..
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You can get stock sheets of gasket material from napa, packs with cork and versions sizes and material. It's nice to have on hand if you do a service or want to replace certain little things. It takes a bit of time to cut out with a exacto knife and using a fuel line punch for holes. But not a big deal really. Depending on material a bit of oil or perm spray goes a long way. RTV gooping is overkill. In my thinking.


Looks like a good set of gasket you have. Don't over think it. Use them. Oil will get to them if they need it. Dry install.

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Think you are complaining to just complain. Look like great gaskets to me! Not sure how you set bearing/worm load on a steering box with a gasket?

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