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Old 02-12-2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default 31 Ford Deluxe Phaeton Work!!

a floor pan came to the shop today for some work





check back soon as i will be doing some minor sheetmetal work on the rest of the car!!!
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #2
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:08 PM   #3
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I love watching your work, you are a real "metal artiste" (or something like that). Watching the details of your work take me back to when I did those kinds of repairs-I guess my metal work got crowded out by silliness like working, raising kids, etc. etc. Might get myself a TIG rig and pick it back up. ANYWAY, keep those photos a comin!
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:47 PM   #4
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good to see ya 31flamingo!


thanks greg !! plenty of work ahead!


heres the problem some rust around the access hole to the rear crossmember



here we are finished up



starting on the cowl soon!
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:52 PM   #5
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great work man! Can't wait to see more!
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:13 PM   #6
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Nice metal work . Ebay had the rear pan [pretty solid] $199.00 last week and did not sell. The tub i sold a solid one at $350.00 ... The kick panel i have plenty of them and i sell them for $15.00... The rear pan repro was $125.00 ..If your customer is Dave , i have spoke to him already.... Keep up the good work and save another 180A. Take allot of detail pictures... Thanks....
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:34 PM   #7
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thanks kid31!!

hey peters !! Gladly helping out Dave on this fun project!!


some extra holes in the firewall!!






smoothed out




firewall from the back smoothed out



pan i fixed up sitting in place



a side shot



heres a truck of daves as of well

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:22 AM   #8
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Fantastic !

Very nice to see quality work on this, perhaps most beautiful of all model A body styles !
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:42 PM   #9
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great work ! just check the space between the 2 rear fenders and the rear apron across the back for fit.. And keep Dave honest with just the left side fender well.. Don't add the right side....l.o.l.Coming along great.. Also remember to put the zinc door sill on first before the body goes on the frame... Don't know why Briggs did it that way.. It suck with the nails from the bottom up...You do have A+L's telephone for all those parts?? If you don't have the zinc sill order them .Before Al died he was running short.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:51 PM   #10
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(Second only to the roadster!)
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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I'm not sure why, but I'm taking Earle's word for it.

You're an artist Flop.
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:41 AM   #12
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thanks everyone !

it was a pleasure to work on such a rare car!!

the fenders dont fit the opening so well so im sure there will be some work involved back there.

daves house looks like a model a store right now i think he has every part for the car scattered through out hahah .
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #13
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Tom: Did you get a new shop? Or did Dave talk you into coming over to his? Keep up the good work and great pictures!!

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Old 03-03-2012, 01:14 PM   #14
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Flop , the rear ,,,,,fender to fender too tight??? If your dealing with a repro steel apron ,,they are too long... gotta cut them down some and fix the end again. Also body welting goes between the apron and rear fenders,, I put black tape across the top of the apron to wood ,,not welting ..
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Flop , the rear ,,,,,fender to fender too tight??? If your dealing with a repro steel apron ,,they are too long... gotta cut them down some and fix the end again. Also body welting goes between the apron and rear fenders,, I put black tape across the top of the apron to wood ,,not welting ..
I know...have said this many times before...when someone goes to all the time, effort and money to reproduce something...why the heck can't they just go that extra mile and do it right the first time.

I know...that "extra mile" just might cost a few extra bucks to do it right (or more).

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Old 03-03-2012, 02:51 PM   #16
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I know...have said this many times before...when someone goes to all the time, effort and money to reproduce something...why the heck can't they just go that extra mile and do it right the first time.

I know...that "extra mile" just might cost a few extra bucks to do it right (or more).

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This past week I fit reproduction front fenders, aprons, running boards, and rear fenders on a car for someone else. They were a BITCH, and it took right at 20 hours to get them all fitting decent and to drill all the holes for them.
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Keep up the great work Flop. Always enjoy your sheet metal threads
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:34 PM   #18
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329's .... the repro rear apron that was made is used for the ORIGINAL fender fit... Since i helped a number of 180A owners with their cars i have found out that using repro fenders with the rear repro steel apron does not work well in some cases. The person who made the rear apron did it on his own and had a low number made. [WISH he went in having more made] They were super done since none are around !!!!!!! and original ones got the shit beat out of them for some reason.[thin metal]. He made them thicker...Anyway wanted to clear that up...Its the rear repro fenders with the problem.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:29 PM   #19
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thanks everyone . always a good time posting sheet metal pics up here .

i just bought a 31 coupe myself . shes gonna need alot of work so there will be some more sheetmetal for you guys !!


roland im in daves garage on this one . he likes the car to be in sight at all times haha !!

peters the fit to the body is not the best . he has and orig. pan we didnt try fitting it while i was there .
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:43 PM   #20
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heres some of the phaeton .dave is moving right along now ! had to give hima hand shrinking a high spot today in his hood

heres the phaeton in primer










here is daves 24000 orig mile coupe. it has 28000 on it now .original paint on the body .fenders and aprons have been repainted. everything else as original



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Again VERY NICE... moving along in the fast lane.......He is going with Everyone 180A Blue??? 7 color combo's in 1930 and too bad he has a 1931...4 combo's. I would shoot for Brewster Green and not blue...Have not seen one yet....And tooooooooo many blues.That's why mine is black...
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Here is Bob Travis's Brewster Green...maybe a bit on the light side...but the Apple Green wheels sure seem correct. I am doing my 31 in black and Apple Green. Peter, I will give you a call about excess parts here in a week or two. Swoff
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thanks everyone !

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the fenders dont fit the opening so well so im sure there will be some work involved back there.

daves house looks like a model a store right now i think he has every part for the car scattered through out hahah .
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heres some of the phaeton .dave is moving right along now ! had to give hima hand shrinking a high spot today in his hood

heres the phaeton in primer










here is daves 24000 orig mile coupe. it has 28000 on it now .original paint on the body .fenders and aprons have been repainted. everything else as original



Would it be possible for you to post an outside rear body picture? My son and I are trying to piece a Phaeton together and these pics are a BIG help. Thanks.

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Would it be possible for you to post an outside rear body picture? My son and I are trying to piece a Phaeton together and these pics are a BIG help. Thanks.

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Does this help??


(Also, I probably have pictures showing how we made many of the patch panels for this car if you would like to see those too)
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Brent - would love to see how you made the patch panels for this body. Please post them.

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Brent, thanks for the extra pics. They definitely will help. I assume the rear panel to quarter seams have been filled.
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Brent - would love to see how you made the patch panels for this body. Please post them.

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I attached a PDF that I made for a different project that has some of the pictures. If there is something specific you need to see, let me know.



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Brent, thanks for the extra pics. They definitely will help. I assume the rear panel to quarter seams have been filled.
We melted the lead out of the seam and filled with a Kevlar-stranded filler.

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Wow, what great work. Thanks for the extra pics.

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Thanks Brent!
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They all look good in PRIME
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Stone Brown and Stone Gray and a beautiful day by the lake
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Great work and photos glad to see you are all healed up
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