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Old 08-01-2020, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default Model A horn.

I seen an article somewhere that says if you solder a penny to the the diaphragm of the Model A klaxon horn it alters the sound, is that correct
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Old 08-01-2020, 08:56 PM   #2
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Default Re: Model A horn.

Since the diaphragm generates the sound, I would think that is correct. If the diaphragm develops a crack, that also changes the sound.

Iím curious. Did the article say why someone would want to solder a penny to the diaphragm?


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The diaphragm is made of spring steel, any alteration to it will affect the sound.
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Old 08-02-2020, 05:43 PM   #4
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I read article on this site a long time ago, and that an elderly guy who restores model A klaxon horns solders a penny on the diaphragm to alter the tone of the sound.
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Old 08-02-2020, 07:41 PM   #5
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What is a klaxon horn? A type/style? I thought the klaxon was on the model T with a manual push devise.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:39 PM   #6
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Klaxon is the name of a French car horn manufacturer (like Sparton in the US). Model A's that were assembled in France were originally equipped with the "Klaxonet" horn (OEM), which was supplied by the Klaxon horn company in France.

Here is an era Klaxon magazine ad from the French Fordisme magazine from 1930, declaring that Klaxon equips the new Fords:




....and here is what one looks like on a French Model A:



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Old 08-02-2020, 09:19 PM   #7
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A repo diaphragm gives a different note as they are thicker, Don,t expect much for a penny, try a NZ $2 coin ?? Are you wanting a more tinny noise or a gruffer one ??
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See attached article.

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Old 08-03-2020, 12:54 AM   #9
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The Model A horn produces a very unique and discernible sound recognized by generations. Why would you want to alter the sound?
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:22 AM   #10
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Maybe for 12 volt.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:25 AM   #11
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If I solder a dime, will I sound richer?
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:31 AM   #12
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My delivery came with a Klaxon horn mounted under the hood. I grew up with the belief that all model T & A horns were Klaxons until I joined here and noticed virtually NO mention of them and lots of discussion about Spartan horns. I honestly don't recall where the idea that Klaxon horns were the norm came from though.
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In the USA, Model A’s came wither either Spartan, Stewart Warner, Ames, Or EA Laboratories horns. No Klaxtons.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:06 AM   #14
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My delivery came with a Klaxon horn mounted under the hood. I grew up with the belief that all model T & A horns were Klaxons until I joined here and noticed virtually NO mention of them and lots of discussion about Spartan horns. I honestly don't recall where the idea that Klaxon horns were the norm came from though.
You've been watching too many of those American WW2 war films:

"The diving alarm is sounded twice to signal a dive and three times for emergency surfacing, and is accompanied by either the announcement "dive, dive" or "surface, surface, surface." The alarm is usually described as "ah-OOG-ah." On early submarines, it was an actual motor-driven vibratory horn (called a klaxon after the popular Klaxon Horn used on automobiles"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarms...ed_States_Navy
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:48 AM   #15
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You've been watching too many of those American WW2 war films:

"The diving alarm is sounded twice to signal a dive and three times for emergency surfacing, and is accompanied by either the announcement "dive, dive" or "surface, surface, surface." The alarm is usually described as "ah-OOG-ah." On early submarines, it was an actual motor-driven vibratory horn (called a klaxon after the popular Klaxon Horn used on automobiles"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarms...ed_States_Navy
Nope, that's not it. actually I had never related the submarine alarm with an ahoogah horn until it was mentioned here. Seems silly that I missed it now though..... DUH. Makes me wonder why a klaxon horn was on my model A bought in northern Alberta now. Were they perhaps used on Canadian built cars??. My Delivery is canadian made.
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Old 08-03-2020, 04:21 PM   #16
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I think klaxon is a generic term covering all "aooghaa" horns regardless of manufacture. The term probably originated from horns made by the Klaxon company, in the same way that we refer to "hoovers", regardless of which company made the vacuum cleaner.
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Old 08-03-2020, 06:49 PM   #17
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I think klaxon is a generic term covering all "aooghaa" horns regardless of manufacture. The term probably originated from horns made by the Klaxon company, in the same way that we refer to "hoovers", regardless of which company made the vacuum cleaner.
That makes sense. Like "Kleenex" and "Kotex". That is likely where I got the notion that all ahooga horns were "klaxon".
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:02 PM   #18
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Steve, you forget that GMI also made horns for model As
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