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Old 03-30-2020, 02:09 PM   #1
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Guten Abend,

are there some pictures from the past, whether or how reserve oil tanks were attached in the engine compartment?

Citroen had always installed a bracket for this.


Dankeschoen for helpin'!
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Old 03-30-2020, 02:51 PM   #2
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Even the SM Citroen had a place for the oil can--- I don't know of American cars having them---but then Citroen kept the hand crank option into the 70s, it disappeared here soon after ww2---- perhaps it was because we had service stations on nearly every corner that sold oil and put it in
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Even the SM Citroen had a place for the oil can--- I don't know of American cars having them---but then Citroen kept the hand crank option into the 70s, it disappeared here soon after ww2---- perhaps it was because we had service stations on nearly every corner that sold oil and put it in
A lot of them put it in even if it didn’t need it!

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Old 03-31-2020, 05:04 AM   #4
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... perhaps it was because we had service stations on nearly every corner that sold oil and put it in A lot of them put it in even if it didn’t need it! ..
Is there anyone who can show some authetic pictures, please?
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There's some pictures in our local city hall-- closed to public for now due to the covid19, in the 60s I remember 7 gas stations here, city of about 3000 at the time, 3 at one intersection-- a Gulf, Sunoco,and Sinclair, the other corner had a old time used car lot, there's only a shell of one of the stations, it's a pizza place, the other corners have a bank, McDonald's and drug store --- now there's only one gas station
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There's always this:
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Old 03-31-2020, 12:55 PM   #7
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Here's a Ford oil can fitted to the bulkhead (firewall) of my 32 RHD Cabriolet
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Old 03-31-2020, 01:33 PM   #8
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And there's this - oil, water and gas. Not in engine compartment and maybe seen more on Model T running board but occasionally on A.

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Here's a UK AA with what I assume is an original ( dealer fitted?) oil bracket. But no oil can has been on it for several decades!
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If you can find the old small oil cans (with or without the Ford lettering logo) most Vendors sell a bracket you can mount anyplace in the engine compartment.

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Old 04-01-2020, 01:09 PM   #11
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Here's the oiler and bracket that is screwed to the cowl of my car:
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Maenners!
I thank you all for the many helpful tips. It is important for me to see the brackets at that time.
I am now looking for oil cans accordingly.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:33 PM   #13
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Werner, Snyder’s hat was. Sie suchen Teil Nr T-19528 Viel Glueck! Alfred
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Old 04-03-2020, 02:38 PM   #14
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Hallo und guten Abend.
Yes, the part that Don Snyder offers is good (Dankeschön, Alfred!). But the shipping costs are extremely high, especially for small quantities. I am building it myself.
Can someone please write down the dimensions?
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Old 04-03-2020, 10:12 PM   #15
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Werner: What size and shape oil can are you planning on mounting under your hood?

Here are some other examples of oil can brackets for various shapes and sizes of oil cans. I use them to hang/display oil cans on the walls of my petroliana room:

....for a round can:


....for a WWII German military oil can:


....for a 2 Ltr Texaco can:


....for a triangular Shell can:


....or this different version for a triangle Shell can:


....for a triangular Gargoyle Mobiloil can:


....or here are a bunch more for mostly 2Ltr oil cans:


.....and some other's again for 2Ltr oil cans:


...or you can just purchase (on eBay.fr) a new 2Ltr oil can support in France for a VeloSolex and just mount that under your hood somewhere:


Hope that helps and gives you some ideas,
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Thanks, quite a collection ! !
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I really like the triangle shell can/bracket, now I'm going to be looking for something along those lines.
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:37 PM   #18
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Guten Abend alle zusammen!

Was fuer unglaubliche Schaetze! Dankeschoen!

I only want to use original American oil cans. I'm going to put an old 1/4 gallon MMO can on the left frame spare in the engine compartment.

I'm still looking for a small oil can with the 'Ford' script for the fire bulkhead. Like as shown on numbers 11, 9 and 6.


Another big thank you for the stimulating pictures!
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Brad in Germany shows the Mobil/Gargoyle English can in the English round can holder.These were fitted to all English built A and AA vehicles the bracket bolted to the left
side of the cowl engine side. The oval can as the model B picture was fitted to the model Y also. Various oil companies made the round can also original fitment were marked with the "FORD" script .

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small oil can with the 'Ford' script
Does anyone make reproductions?
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Guten Abend alle miteinander.

After an incredible odyssey, I received my original oil jug after 11 weeks (USPS Fst. Cl.).

I still partially recognize that it was originally copper-plated.

Please, what did these thumb oiler look like originally?
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Does anyone make reproductions?
I just saw this on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Ford-Mode...sAAOSwQJhUhlKn

Oh, Shoot. I just noticed it is for the holder only.
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Ruth, thanks for this -bay hint! Because I saw now well how the holder looks like. So I was able to replicate it today.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:51 PM   #25
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I have an oil can on my A just like Katy has. The bracket is new, but the can is old. Has Ford script embossed on it. Very cool.
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Grüß Dich Werner,

You might be interested to know that your oil can is actually an oil can for a Ford Model T based on how the spout screws into the base.

Though they look very similar, on the Model A oil can (part number A-17040), the base of the spout has a female thread to mate with the male part of the oil can base. (Your Model T oil can has the male part on the threads of the spout that screws into the female threads on the oil can base.)

Note that the oil can bracket was not an original Ford Model A part. There is no part number for it and it is not listed in the parts books. Originally the oil can was just part of the Tool Kit.

According to the Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards, "the oil can was used in A's and AA's from beginning of production through April 1928. There were seven manufacturers of the oil cans.....and some of the oilcans had an H, M or N trademark below the Ford script. The oil can was copper plated steel (not painted). The diameter of the base was 3-5/16" and the total height was 5-5/16". Spouts were either knurled or plain. The spout was always straight, not curved, with a female thread (to mate with the oil can male thread), and was copper or tin plated." (RG&JS page 17-1, Rv. 2016)

And for even more detail, here is the original Ford design drawing for the Model A oil can:


.....and to see the variety of these Ford script cans, both Model A and Model T:


MFG (Mit Ford Grüßen ) aus den USA,
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Old 07-04-2020, 05:43 AM   #27
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Hallo und guten Tag Brad,

thank you for your detailed advice, which I find extremely interesting. Very nice collection! Now I have to go looking for an original copper-plated "A" box.

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