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Old 12-22-2019, 02:13 PM   #1
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Does anyone know this interesting and beautiful accessory? Possibly also a source of supply?
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Old 12-22-2019, 02:17 PM   #2
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They come from Brassworks. I prefer their overflow tank that fits between the radiator and shell and is hidden.
http://www.thebrassworks.net/shop/Pa...d067d731cc326a
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Can you pressurize a AA system having a std cooler, or do you need an aftermarket cooler made to be pressurized?

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Someone had rigged up an overflow on our '28 Sport Coupe when I bought it by attaching an anti-freeze jug to the firewall with wire ties and connecting a hose. I removed it on the way home and deposited it in the first recycling bin that I saw.
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Someone had rigged up an overflow on our '28 Sport Coupe when I bought it by attaching an anti-freeze jug to the firewall with wire ties and connecting a hose. I removed it on the way home and deposited it in the first recycling bin that I saw.
I installed something similar on my latest car and it works a treat - much better than the nice chromed jobs we see advertised. I can't understand why you got rid of it unless you want everything "original".
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Does anyone know this interesting and beautiful accessory? Possibly also a source of supply?
"Beautiful", but it looks like it belongs on a street rod.

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"Beautiful", but it looks like it belongs on a street rod.

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Old 12-22-2019, 05:46 PM   #8
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Hallo,
thanks for answers.

I don't need the part, because the engine do not lost water. I want it, because it looks very nice and it is a tool at that time.



MAC's sell it, but the shipping costs ar more than 120 $, that's too much.
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Old 12-22-2019, 07:24 PM   #9
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A schnapps bottle could work.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:09 AM   #10
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Get one of them fancy insulated thermos coffee cups from Starbucks for $100 and just set it on the passenger seat.
Does your car "pass" off that much coolant that you need a recovery tank? Once they find their "happy level" adding more liquid just means it has to pass it off to get back to it's happy level.
Just my experience with these. I had one on a 52 V-8 but never felt the need on the "A". Chap
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Old 12-23-2019, 09:55 AM   #11
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Whether you need it or not its kind of a neat accessory and isn't really a modification, more of just an add on. I top off my radiator every spring when I get the car out, it then blows water for a few minutes then I never have to add again for the year but still, if I had a neat little tank like that one I think I'd put it on. Conversation piece. When I go to a car show and look the cars over, there are lots of horrible "fixes" that usually just make you wince , but once in a while you see a really neat and nicely done little add on that makes the car more interesting.
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I need to add this or something similar for a number of reasons but mainly after seeing the effects antifreeze has on a pet (dog) there is no excuse for allowing this stuff to seep all over the ground...


Granted I cleaned up the "spill" but even the diluted antifreeze was enough to almost kill our dog. It took 5 days and a lot of Vodka to save her life. The cost of this overflow tank is a very small fraction of the vet bill and the prevention of poisoning and possible death of you furbuddy makes it worth its weight in gold...
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I need to add this or something similar for a number of reasons but mainly after seeing the effects antifreeze has on a pet (dog) there is no excuse for allowing this stuff to seep all over the ground...
Sorry about your Doggie, maybe switch to a doggie friendly anti-freeze? https://www.acehardware.com/departme...IOfA&gclsrc=ds
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not so sophisticated on my Tudor!
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Wrong topic.
My overflow is vented to the road.

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Old 12-25-2019, 12:56 PM   #16
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They are available at any hot-rod shop or by mail from Speedway Motors in Nebraska, Summit Racing, etc.
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:16 PM   #17
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Good evening, is there someone here who maybe has a photo of an engraving o. e. of this part from that time?
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:00 PM   #18
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Would someone please show me how to install the cooling water compensating cylinder? I thought it was screwed between the radiator and the mask frame. But that's wrong.

Thanks in advance!
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Here is how I mounted mine
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:16 AM   #20
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Thanks for the helpful picture!

I see that you also have Jim's front tool box. I also assembled them.
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Do these not require a pressurized system to work the way they're meant to?
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Hallo Randy.
No, it's an open, depressurized cylinder. One drainage tube from the bottom and one to the top for pressure equalization.

You don't must to have it. But it looks nice and interesting.
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I installed something similar on my latest car and it works a treat - much better than the nice chromed jobs we see advertised. I can't understand why you got rid of it unless you want everything "original".[/QUOTE]

Hi Synchro. I've purchased the flash chrome slim cylinder. It looks great but I don't know how or where to attach it. I'd like a photo of the one you have used or improvised please.
I like your signature at the bottom of your posts re health and wealth. I'd even vouch for its authenticity.
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Guten Tag!
The overflow cylinder has now been installed. I riveted it with a square tube against the radiator mask. Looks very nice!
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So with an overflow tank on a non pressurised system , once the bottle is full it simply overflows on to the pavement. To me an overflow tank on a non pressurised system seems pointless , apart from looks. I suppose it could return to a non pressurised system as long as the overflow pipe in the radiator was submerged. What is the trick to getting say a 4lb pressurised cap on an A so in fact when it cools it will actually return to the radiator .

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Old 02-26-2020, 08:04 AM   #26
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I think the idea is not bad. Only the cooler is filled. Any water that expands when heated runs into the expansion tank. When cooling, the cooler sucks the water back out of the expansion tank.

But you're right: my main joy is that it looks great too.
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