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Old 01-25-2019, 04:34 PM   #1
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Hello dear oldtimer friends.


For several weeks I use this forum here. At home there are few connoisseurs.

I bought my '28 Roadster in November from a dealer. He bought the car from 'Classic Car Auctions' (Florida or California).

I still have a 1947 "Gangster" limousine. The Citroen 11 CV. He is restored exactly. So it will be my "A" too.

In the 70's, I was in quality control at Ford factory. (At that time the same key was used for the oil screw in the rear axle as in the "A"!)

One of my problems is that I'm overly ambitious when restoring. But I always get the old patina or I do make it like old.

It is very nice, how well one here in this forum is helped.




Good cooperations! (My English is not good.)


Wrote 5 books about model engines. Other hobbies are flying big model airplanes,. As co flying airplanes (Cessna 140, C 172 Rocket, JoDel R 400). Amazonas & salt water tanks. (Aquarium).
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Welcome, and don't worry about your English. In school, we learn that the first 'rule' of English is - 'there are no rules'..... Good Luck!
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Hallo Werner: Herzlich Willkommen bei Ford Barn!

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Willkommen. Ich haben auch eine 1929 roadster. Nicht sehr gut, Ihnen hat besser.
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Welcome!

Your roadster colors are like my 1929 car.

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Jim, What is the name of color on your Phaeton?
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Werner,

Welcome to the Forum. I have a 29 Roadster - my first real antique car. I was into old tractors, mainly John Deere and old make and break engines. Sold all that stuff when we retired to Florida but not the Model A. I also flew model airplanes control line for many years and still do occasionally. I am learning more about the Model A every day and enjoying it. Sounds like we have a lot in common. Don't hesitate to PM with a question. I enjoy the comradery ! Jim
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Hello Oldies!


It is very nice for me to be so kindly welcomed. It seems that Germany is not unpopular. Elvis Presley enjoyed it, and Peggy March lives in Munich too.



Now it is midnight in Central Europe; good night.
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Jim, What is the name of color on your Phaeton?
That is a Balsam Green body with Valley Green belt.

The yellow train depot building changes the hue of the green in the photo a bit.

Here's another photo of the same car in a setting with green and brown behind it, and without direct light on it. It improves the look of the green.

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Hello at all.


Sometimes I want to write something about how I feel about my roadster.



It was bought by a dealer: http://www.classic-carauction.com/se...auctionid=9188



I bought it in Germany in November. Unfortunately, the previous owner hid, he does not want to have any contact. I can not understand that and find that very sad. I like to hear old stories and pictes of the car's live in the past.


I stripped the car and preserved it with Ardrox AV 15. This is a special very thin transparent corrosion protection wax used by Boeing and airbus. At the moment I am still working on the rear axle. New spring, new dampers, fixed brakes. That will take one week I think & hope.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:04 PM   #15
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Nice looking cars Werner. They are the universal language. My brother has some very close friends in Germany and he vacations there every couple of years. His wife is Canadian and she was working there when he met her.
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Welcome. Beautiful car.
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Hi Werner,
I love your Citroen. I worked as a civilian chemist in Frankfort AM in the early 70s for the US Army Criminal Investigation Lab. I saw a few of the Citreons like yours hiding out in back alley garages and always wanted to buy one, but never accomplished that dream. They remind me of my 1934 Ford. I would still love to find one, but I have never seen one for sale in the US.
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Welcome; You have a beautiful car.You mentioned that you like to preserve the patina on old things. Could you explain a little about that. I am currently doing a PU that I would like to keep the rust look and avoid painting it . Thanks in advance. Jack
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Werner, is that a German Shorthair? I have one of those. She is 13 years old and the same color as yours. I also have a '28 roadster but it is not nearly as nice looking as yours. I was stationed in your country for 17 months in the late 50's, Pirmasens (near Kaiserslautern) where I learned some German and can still speak and understand some.
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Hello Jack.

I did not understand that sentense exactly. What does "make PU" mean? Is this PU varnish spray painting?

I try to get the old paint. If some must painted new, I "sand" very, verry fine after curing with the finest corund wet sandpaper (grain 2000) dull gloss. Then comes hard wax. Then the paint would polished. This gives a silky sheen, as if with great effort the much decades old nitrolack was maintained.

The Citroen I sanded and polished the whole car again. The Roadster does not have to be painted. He has no rust. But many "Katschen" (small chipped areas on the edges). I dab it with a fine brush. No more.

I want to see that the car is over 90 years old. No want a wedding car.
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No, it is my wife!

Or do you mean the dog? The dog was rescued from a killing station in Greece. A mixture with something "Münsterländer".
Near Kaiserslautern is the Air Base Ramstein. The largest of Europe.

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Hello dear oldtimer friends.


For several weeks I use this forum here. At home there are few connoisseurs.

I bought my '28 Roadster in November from a dealer. He bought the car from 'Classic Car Auctions' (Florida or California).

I still have a 1947 "Gangster" limousine. The Citroen 11 CV. He is restored exactly. So it will be my "A" too.

In the 70's, I was in quality control at Ford factory. (At that time the same key was used for the oil screw in the rear axle as in the "A"!)

One of my problems is that I'm overly ambitious when restoring. But I always get the old patina or I do make it like old.

It is very nice, how well one here in this forum is helped.




Good cooperations! (My English is not good.)


Wrote 5 books about model engines. Other hobbies are flying big model airplanes,. As co flying airplanes (Cessna 140, C 172 Rocket, JoDel R 400). Amazonas & salt water tanks. (Aquarium).

Hi Werner. don't worry about your English, it's okay. I live in an English only speaking country and I couldn't get a pass of 30 marks in English for our school certificate which is a national exam of an ordinary standard. What saves my ass today is spell check on the computer otherwise I cna't spell my way out of a wet paper bag. cheers, gary
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Hello Barn Members!


Since yesterday my little Green Roadster is almost finished.

265 hours of work and several thousand dollars later, it has now become a very good car.

An indispensable help was and are the many patient answers I received in this friendly forum! Thanks at all!

Now also my three beauties can smile too!
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Werner, That is a wonderful photo. Congratulations. I'm sure all three will play a part in your life and you in theirs.
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Hallo Werner,

Will you be going to this year's "Ford Modell A – Oldtimer-Treffen" from Friday 5 July to Sunday 7 July in the Technikmuseum Freudenberg?



It sounds like a fun time and will be great to see a bunch of Model A's in Germany all in one place.



To find more details about this event, you can click here to go to their website.

...and for the linguistically disadvantaged persons, you can read the english version (via Google Translate) by clicking here.



....and if you can not make up your mind whether to go or not, you can read about last year's "Ford Modell A – Oldtimer-Treffen" by clicking here. (and the english translated version here).

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Hello at all.


Sometimes I want to write something about how I feel about my roadster.



It was bought by a dealer: http://www.classic-carauction.com/se...auctionid=9188



I bought it in Germany in November. Unfortunately, the previous owner hid, he does not want to have any contact. I can not understand that and find that very sad. I like to hear old stories and pictes of the car's live in the past.


I stripped the car and preserved it with Ardrox AV 15. This is a special very thin transparent corrosion protection wax used by Boeing and airbus. At the moment I am still working on the rear axle. New spring, new dampers, fixed brakes. That will take one week I think & hope.



Hi Werner,


Just re-read this. The ad says everything is in good/excellent shape. If advertised good/excellent should have only needed minor or no repairs. With all the things you are finding wrong on the car the previous owner may be afraid to talk to you.
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That's the way it is!

See picture: ball bearing at distance holder.
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N'Abend Brad,

whether we go there is depends on two factors: That our dog until then will ride in the ruble-seat. And that the weather is dry.

The journey takes about >3 hours.
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Good evening all together!


Today photo day was announced for the nearly restored roadster. Sunshine, little wind and a relatively mild temperature - the season begins!
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Hallo Freunde,

yesterday I made the first big exit. Through the Belgian Ardennes to 'Spa'. Anyone who wants to know roughly how road conditions used to be at the time of the construction of our A would only need to drive through Belgium once. Here I realized where the limits of chassis and shock absorbers are.

But it's nice that my Little Green Roadster is now almost finished and can be driven every day.
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Werner - Nice looking car, nice looking family (if your family). Thanks for the pictures.
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Good evening all together!


Today photo day was announced for the nearly restored roadster. Sunshine, little wind and a relatively mild temperature - the season begins!





Where'd you find that Ford Tool Box?
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Hallo Fitzpatrick,

the box is homemade. An old steel box from Ebay. I cut the lettering from balsa wood. Then roughly painted with hammer blow lacquer.
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Hello everybody.

After a year and a half, over 700 working hours and many, many thousands of dollars, our Little Green Roadster has now been completed. It has become a very good car, it runs now very well.

Myself have often been tested hard. But I didn't give up. I learned how the entire mechanics between the carburetor and the exhaust works. I had to relearn my English, which I had forgotten in the past 50 years.

Without the support of this helpful forum with the many very friendly helpers, I would not have been able to do a lot of this work well.

Dankeschön, Männers!
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Very nice. Must have been difficult doing all that work and not scratching/dinging up the paint.


With all the accessories/improvements am surprised you do not have a radiator stone guard.
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Werner, much credit goes to your tenacity when it was difficult. Countless people have been helped and educated by your willingness to share the journey. Enjoy your much improved "A"
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Werner, that is one beautiful car! Being a roadster, you are just in time for the summer weather. First day of summer according to the calendar is next week-end.
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Werner, welcome to FB! I have been following your posts, and have tried to help when I can. I'm into performance Model A's, over-head valves and such. I too spent about 14 months in Nurnberg, an enjoyable time in my life. I can still speak ein venig Deutsche, but have trouble understanding any of it.

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Good Evening.


Excuse me, Wade, that I almost forgot your question.
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... Must have been difficult doing all that work and not scratching/dinging up the paint. ...
Of course, the process did not go without small scratches and tiny dents. But I tried to keep the patina wherever possible. Then the few additional scratches do not bother.

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... With all the accessories/improvements am surprised you do not have a radiator stone guard.
I did not install this stone chip protection because I did not like it. I like the simple bare cooler much better. Stone chip protection is no longer necessary anyway, I think.
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Hey Werner:

That's a fine piece of machinery you have there.
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I did not install this stone chip protection because I did not like it. I like the simple bare cooler much better. Stone chip protection is no longer necessary anyway, I think.
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As a FYI, I thought that also, until a milk truck pulled out in front of me and threw a piece of gravel at my new Bergs radiator, rock must have hit my radiator at 40-60 mph. Created a heck of a ding. I figure I was lucky since it did not cause a leak.


I agree that the new stone guard looks out of place on my cosmetically much less than perfect Truck. I have been thinking of about either aging the finish, or having it painted or powder coated. Have yet to decide on the finish - color, gloss or satin or flat if painted/powder coated.
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Today was an interesting day. 33333 made. Unfortunately, I do not know how often the speedometer has already turned around.
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Wow Werner, I can see that you are a total dedicated Model A fanatic, true to the core, to your Roadster........even your socks perfectly match the paint color of your car!!!

Now that is impressive!

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Hi Werner,
What does is antique key on the key ring used for?
What is the contraption on the right edge of your floorboard? Metal arm with an egg shaped end which is notched.
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Hello and good day to all of you.

Ken, Du Adlerauge!

Wade, the old key on the ring that hangs on the original pop off switch, belongs to the tool box on the running board.

The other part is an old heavy adjustable wrench. We in Germany call such a tool "Englaender". The term comes from the fact that this adjustment tool could be used universally for inch sizes.

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[QUOTE=Werner;1914621]Hello and good day to all of you.

Ken, Du Adlerauge!

Wade, the old key on the ring that hangs on the original pop off switch, belongs to the tool box on the running board.

The other part is an old heavy adjustable wrench. We in Germany call such a tool "Englaender". The term comes from the fact that this adjustment tool could be used universally for inch sizes.

Werner, Those tools come in metric and imperial versions. Mine have imperial on one side and metric on the other!
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