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Old 01-25-2015, 07:49 PM   #21
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Allow me to add to the confusion. This is how the Judging Standards are worded. In Section 12, page 12-2, "From the beginning of production until October 1929, all trunk compartments had anti-drum cardboards on the rear quarter panels. The cardboards were painted with the body". I know this is different than the trim panels used on rumble seat cars but perhaps this will be helpful.




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Old 01-25-2015, 08:48 PM   #22
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Good stuff here guys. Thanks for the information.

Pluck, I'm only about 90 miles from Walla Walla and will see you in June for the NW MAFCA Meet. Maybe you'll have the trunk on your coupe complete by then.

An article on rumble seat-to-trunk conversion would be a significant contribution and I would look forward to it!

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Old 01-25-2015, 09:16 PM   #23
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My 1929 Business Coupe came from the factory with a rumble seat inner panel PN-50203. I know it was never replaced because I am the third owner. As you know you can use a rumble panel for a trunk car but can't use a trunk panel for a rumble seat. I am in the process of replacing the panel with the correct one PN-45203 with a mint one that I picked up thru a dealer friend at Hershey. The panel does bolt in using six 10-32 x 5/8" oval head bolts along the top edge and eight 1/4-20 x 1/2 " oval head bolts along the bottom edge. Brattons has the bolt kit.
I didn't see your post previously. No, you can't use a trunk lid with the curved rumble type rear floor pan. There is no FORD provision for stops to prevent the deck lid from lowering into the hole, nor is there any provision to latch it closed.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:41 PM   #24
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Hi to All,
I'm posting two photos showing the trunk inner rear body panel, striker, and rubber stops. Also note the Anti-drum Cardboard size on my Original 1928 Mid year Ford Roadster. Jim
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:45 AM   #25
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Also visible in Jim's pics are the small rubber plugs in the rain gutter, in the hole for the rumble bracket to fasten.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:05 AM   #26
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I am not following your logic.
You are the third owner, therefore you know the complete history of your car????
Did you every think maybe the other owners were in the family, like grandpa, and dad?
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:02 AM   #27
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When I started this project a couple of months ago, I asked the gentleman that I purchased the car from in 1968 if he or any one else changed the trunk panel and he said he did not. He got the car from his aunt and he knows for a fact she never had an occasion to replace the panel. So I am just about positive that it came from the factory that way.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:25 PM   #28
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I to am looking to convert our 28 coupe back to trunk lid ,is the inner panel and rail with the bump rubbers and latch position in one piece?

i suppose with all these being converted back to trunks the necessary panel will be hard to get?

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Old 01-26-2015, 08:32 PM   #29
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Is there a Ford Part Number for this?

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I received part # A-161-ABTR from Snyder's this morning. It is the inner panel for the trunk conversion which fits in place of the curved rumble seat panel, and it seems to be the correct size (9-1/2"). It includes the anti-rattle brace, the L-channel, and the latch. Of course I won't know if it fits until I get into the project, but this now completes everything I think I'll need to return my coupe to a trunk.
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:49 PM   #31
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Also visible in Jim's pics are the small rubber plugs in the rain gutter, in the hole for the rumble bracket to fasten.
I would assume that's to keep the lid square too the quarters?
Were does the water drain?in?
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:23 PM   #32
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I have the curved rumble rear floor panel that was added I guess when the conversion from trunk to rumble took place. I can not see any water drain holes in the rain gutter. If the rain is to drain out both sides, not much opening there either.
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It runs off the end of the rain gutter and on to the ground . there a big opening all the way across . And off the curved panel at the ends under the guide shoes .
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I would assume that's to keep the lid square too the quarters?
Were does the water drain?in?
I'm I seeing things or is the gutter upside down ?
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It runs off the end of the rain gutter and on to the ground . there a big opening all the way across . And off the curved panel at the ends under the guide shoes .
Gotcha....thanks
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I'm I seeing things or is the gutter upside down ?
Dennis, I just went out and looked at my gutters and the one pictured does seem to be upside down. Mine is more like a channel with an inner edge. The picture might just be a deception from the camera angle.

Here is my gutter with the rumble installed.
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It runs off the end of the rain gutter and on to the ground . there a big opening all the way across . And off the curved panel at the ends under the guide shoes .
Gezz,...I need to look at that closer,...when I see a closed car with
a trunk! And,....... the gutter looks correct to me, let your eyes adjust.

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At the panel under the bolt follow the curve downward. It dips further down in an area you can't see for the angle.
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At the panel under the bolt follow the curve downward. It dips further down in an area you can't see for the angle.
Thanks,...I get the gist of it...!
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Hi to All,
I'm posting two photos showing the trunk inner rear body panel, striker, and rubber stops. Also note the Anti-drum Cardboard size on my Original 1928 Mid year Ford Roadster. Jim
Can you post a full photo of the "Anti-drum Cardboard"?

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