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Old 01-25-2015, 01:55 AM   #1
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Default Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

When I got my 1929 Standard Coupe back in 1966, it was already assembled with a trunk.

But at the time, being 16 years old, I thought it would be great to convert it to a rumble seat so I could take my friends with me if I went any where...Not any more.

The rumble/trunk lid was already assembled for use as either or so I converted it with no problem what so ever.

Well, now I want to put it back to being a trunk as it was originally and need to collect the correct original parts to do so...so I will have to be scrounging around to find what I need to make the conversion (unless you have something to help with the conversion).

My question is were there "side panels" on the inside as with the rumble seat or no panels at all?

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Old 01-25-2015, 09:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

I've been gathering parts for about two years to do this also. I finally have everything (I think). If someone with an original trunk could post some interior pictures it would be very helpful. Especially the way the back lower inner panel fits.

Pluck, I've got an extra original latch if you need one. Just the part that goes on the back panel that the latch mechanism closes on. Maybe a couple other small extras; I'll have to check.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:33 AM   #3
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Glad to hear your going back to a trunk, too many cars were changed to rumble seats ( In my humble opinion). Seems like very few coupes or roadster have trunks anymore. I had a 30 coupe with a rumble seat and used it only in parades and was worried then about the passengers.
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I agree too many were converted. I am trying to convince my Dad not to convert his, but so far this has fallen on deaf ears. Rod
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I agree too many were converted. I am trying to convince my Dad not to convert his, but so far this has fallen on deaf ears. Rod

I,m with you guys. Good move Steve
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I've been gathering parts for about two years to do this also. I finally have everything (I think). If someone with an original trunk could post some interior pictures it would be very helpful. Especially the way the back lower inner panel fits.

Pluck, I've got an extra original latch if you need one. Just the part that goes on the back panel that the latch mechanism closes on. Maybe a couple other small extras; I'll have to check.
Is this the panel your talking about ? I just have it mocked up .
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:45 PM   #7
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Default Re: Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

I've been thinking of making this conversion as well (rumble seat to trunk), but don't know where to begin.

Is there an article on this somewhere? A list of parts needed? I don't know anybody with a trunk in their coupe to even look at, so photos would be great!

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Old 01-25-2015, 12:51 PM   #8
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I've been thinking of making this conversion as well (rumble seat to trunk), but don't know where to begin.

Is there an article on this somewhere? A list of parts needed? I don't know anybody with a trunk in their coupe to even look at, so photos would be great!

Thanks,

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Where at in Oregon are you Mike?

No, there is no article at this time BUT I am thinking when I get all the parts to do this...There just might be...Kind of like the Kerry-Kene Trunk article which I sent to MAFCA to be printed (Hopefully) in The Restorer some time soon.

However, if you were to get a copy of the FORD Indianapolis Service Letters, there is a Service letter that describes the "trunk to rumble seat conversion" and if one would be to work backward, you can kind of see just what parts are needed.

Needed parts:

1. Deck lid hinges;
2. Deck Door Support (as seen in Fig. 578 of September 1928 Service Bulletins);
3. Trunk Striker;
4. Trunk Handle (if different than Rumble handle);
5. A-45203 Floor Pan Rear Assembly (Without Rumble Seat);


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Old 01-25-2015, 12:53 PM   #9
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Is this the panel your talking about ? I just have it mocked up .
Dennis,

Is that panel original and is the Trunk latch hook riveted or screwed on?

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My 28 Special Coupe is un- restored and it is screwed on with slotted head screws.
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Long Live the Trunk Coupes.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:07 PM   #12
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My 28 Special Coupe is un- restored and it is screwed on with slotted head screws.
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Can you please post a photo...If not can you send it to someone who can?

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Dennis,

Is that panel original and is the Trunk latch hook riveted or screwed on?

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Steve its a original panel and the latch is riveted . Or I should say was . there's still one you can see the waffle pattern . After thinking about this the top was riveted and slotted screws on the bottom so you can attach to the angle piece .
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Default Re: Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

My 1929 Business Coupe came from the factory with a rumble seat inner panel PN-50203. I know it was never replaced because I am the third owner. As you know you can use a rumble panel for a trunk car but can't use a trunk panel for a rumble seat. I am in the process of replacing the panel with the correct one PN-45203 with a mint one that I picked up thru a dealer friend at Hershey. The panel does bolt in using six 10-32 x 5/8" oval head bolts along the top edge and eight 1/4-20 x 1/2 " oval head bolts along the bottom edge. Brattons has the bolt kit.
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Default Re: Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

Thanks Dennis. Both of your pix are very helpful, and answer some of my basic questions.

Pluck, we should be in communication on this if we are both doing the conversion at the same time. I'll photograph and take notes as I go along, and share with you. Maybe we can solve any problems together, and come up with a good "how-to" article.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:49 PM   #16
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I saw a near mint original 29 Coupe at a national meet several years ago, and the trunk had NO side panels. This is the upholstery panels you are asking about.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:57 PM   #17
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The following was copied from A Body Parts list:

SPEC CPE 49A
+A-52664 Cardboard (deck side) R.H.+ Use on cars with rumble seat
+A-52665 Cardboard (deck side) L.H.+ Use on cars with rumble seat

SPORT CPE 50A
A-52664 Cardboard (deck side) R.H.
A-52665 Cardboard (deck side) L.H.

BUS CPE 54A
No listing of Cardboard (deck sides)

ROADSTER 40A
A-41666 Cardboard (deck side) R.HNo ref to cars with or without rumble seats
A-41667 Cardboard (deck side) L.H.

STD CPE 45A
+A-52664 Cardboard (deck side) R.H.+ Use on cars with rumble seat
+A-52665 Cardboard (deck side) L.H.+ Use on cars with rumble seat

Based on the above it appears no Cardboard side panels were used with a trunk configuration.
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Default Re: Converting 1929 Coupe from Rumble Seat to Trunk...

Allow me to add to the confusion. This is how the Judging Standards are worded. In Section 12, page 12-2, "From the beginning of production until October 1929, all trunk compartments had anti-drum cardboards on the rear quarter panels. The cardboards were painted with the body". I know this is different than the trim panels used on rumble seat cars but perhaps this will be helpful.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:57 PM   #19
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Is a repro flat trunk floor available, or do those of us trying to convert from rumble to trunk have to find an original?
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racer,
there is no "flat" trunk floor panel...the rumble and trunk bottom panels are the same; check your catalogs.
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