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Old 06-25-2014, 08:35 PM   #61
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I think that firewall blanket is one of the best things you can do for a coupe.The difference in heat and noise is night and day with and without it.A layer of thin insulation under the floor mat makes a big difference too.You do NOT have an indented firewall.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:32 PM   #62
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You DONT have the indented firewall. Compare where your fuel line comes through the firewall with the one that BobC posted. Your fuel line shutoff should be on the inside, not under the hood. Nice car, enjoy.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:00 AM   #63
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I think that firewall blanket is one of the best things you can do for a coupe.The difference in heat and noise is night and day with and without it.A layer of thin insulation under the floor mat makes a big difference too.You do NOT have an indented firewall.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:27 PM   #64
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:12 PM   #65
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I have never seen a fan like that on a Model A with an original engine. To me it would look terrible. If it overheats you should fix what is wrong, a properly running Model A won't overheat. In case I haven't talked you out of it yet the stock generator probably wouldn't support the extra load from the fan. If you add an alternator to support the fan that you shouldn't need in the first place you will probably but too much of a load on the water pump bearing leading to problems with the water pump. I also do not like the look of an alternator on a Model A.

While we are on the topic of cooling systems you might replace the 4 blade fan (it is actual part number 46-8600 from a 1933-34 four cylinder Ford but was the dealer replacement for 1928-34 four cylinder Fords) with a current aluminum reproduction fan. Buy it new from a reputable supplier as some of the older ones had problems. The original steel 2 blade Model A fan tends to fail slinging a blade into whatever gets in the way. The four blade like you have is better but there have been a few reports of them losing blades. Check yours to be sure there not any cracks starting to form and if there are not put it on your to do list.

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I have never seen a fan like that on a Model A with an original engine. To me it would look terrible. If it overheats you should fix what is wrong, a properly running Model A won't overheat.

While we are on the topic of cooling systems you might replace the 4 blade fan (it is actual part number 46-8600 from a 1933-34 four cylinder Ford but was the dealer replacement for 1928-34 four cylinder Fords) with a current aluminum reproduction fan. Buy it new from a reputable supplier as some of the older ones had problems. The original steel 2 blade Model A fan tends to fail slinging a blade into whatever gets in the way. The four blade like you have is better but there have been a few reports of them losing blades. Check yours to be sure there not any cracks starting to form and if there are not put it on your to do list.

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A agree with Charlie, the fan is just one more thing to go wrong, one more electrical load that is not needed and the fan, if original, should be replaced before something happens.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:44 PM   #67
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I have never seen a fan like that on a Model A with an original engine. To me it would look terrible. If it overheats you should fix what is wrong, a properly running Model A won't overheat. In case I haven't talked you out of it yet the stock generator probably wouldn't support the extra load from the fan. If you add an alternator to support the fan that you shouldn't need in the first place you will probably but too much of a load on the water pump bearing leading to problems with the water pump. I also do not like the look of an alternator on a Model A.

While we are on the topic of cooling systems you might replace the 4 blade fan (it is actual part number 46-8600 from a 1933-34 four cylinder Ford but was the dealer replacement for 1928-34 four cylinder Fords) with a current aluminum reproduction fan. Buy it new from a reputable supplier as some of the older ones had problems. The original steel 2 blade Model A fan tends to fail slinging a blade into whatever gets in the way. The four blade like you have is better but there have been a few reports of them losing blades. Check yours to be sure there not any cracks starting to form and if there are not put it on your to do list.

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That Was A Great Write Up On The Over Heating & The Fan Blade.
The 6Volt Elec Fan I Was Going To Get Was Just A Precaution, I Don't Have Over Heating Problems, Thank GOD

So It No For Me On The Add On 6 Volt Elec Fan.

But I Will Check The Blade For Cracks, Thank You For All The Good Info
How Many Blades Does The New part number 46-8600 Have ???

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Model A Ford Fan - 6 Blade - Modern Plastic With Steel Hub - Replacement Type - FORD
This has the correct taper on the hub for proper fit. It bolts to the hub using four bolts. An improvement in cooling flow. An ideal choice for the "touring" Model A.

This has a 13-3/4" diameter.
FORD MODEL A 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931
USA made.

Due to clearance issues, this will not work on a Model B ( 1932-34 ) water pump.




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Old 06-26-2014, 11:10 PM   #68
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...How Many Blades Does The New part number 46-8600 Have ???

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The new part number fan that was used from 1933-34 and as a dealer replacement 1928-34 had 4 blades like the one you show in your Post #33. The original Model A fan had two blades and was made by wrapping and welding sheet metal to form the blades. Between rust where the metal for the blades overlaps and fatigue the original fans are prone to fail at the worst time and in the worst way. A slightly improved version was released in late 1931 and carried through 1932. The final version (46-8600) was released for the 1933 Model Year and stocked as a replacement for the earlier cars. Failures of the 46-8600 have been reported (I had one fail ). The current aluminum fan has the same appearance as the original fan unless you look closely. A lot of people, myself included, think the two Model A Clubs (MAFCA and MARC) should accept these aluminum fans for Blue Ribbon judging as a safety issue. As I mentioned earlier be sure to get a new one from a reputable supplier as some of the early ones had problems. I think they come with black powder coat but I saw one on a dressed up engine that looked great after a polish. Just for the record, I don't like the look of the plastic fans (such as you show in Post #67).

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:59 PM   #69
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The new part number fan that was used from 1933-34 and as a dealer replacement 1928-34 had 4 blades like the one you show in your Post #33. The original Model A fan had two blades and was made by wrapping and welding sheet metal to form the blades. Between rust where the metal for the blades overlaps and fatigue the original fans are prone to fail at the worst time and in the worst way. A slightly improved version was released in late 1931 and carried through 1932. The final version (46-8600) was released for the 1933 Model Year and stocked as a replacement for the earlier cars. Failures of the 46-8600 have been reported (I had one fail ). The current aluminum fan has the same appearance as the original fan unless you look closely. A lot of people, myself included, think the two Model A Clubs (MAFCA and MARC) should accept these aluminum fans for Blue Ribbon judging as a safety issue. As I mentioned earlier be sure to get a new one from a reputable supplier as some of the early ones had problems. I think they come with black powder coat but I saw one on a dressed up engine that looked great after a polish. Just for the record, I don't like the look of the plastic fans (such as you show in Post #67).

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Ok Charlie Good Enought, If I Have Problems I'LL Be Sure To Change The Blade To The (46-8600)
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Nice car, good driver, I doubt you could build it for the money you paid and its done.
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Ok Charlie Good Enought, If I Have Problems I'LL Be Sure To Change The Blade To The (46-8600)
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You already have the 46-8600 fan on there the best I can tell from the picture (Post 33).

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You already have the 46-8600 fan on there the best I can tell from the picture (Post 33).

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I Already Bought The Dash Insulation For The In Side Of The Firewall 1930-31 FORD MODEL A EARLY FIREWALL INSULATOR Part # FORD 3031-CT.

The firewall insulator is molded from Chicken Track pattern ABS plastic to
fit the engine and transmission setback of stock metal firewall. Pattern is based on an out of the car/truck original. Ready to install. Can be ordered for restoration (commonly used holes are punched) or Streetrod/custom (no holes for smooth look). Shipped black and can be painted to match interior.
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Old 06-29-2014, 01:43 AM   #73
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I strongly suggest that you start a new thread so others may locate it in the future during a search. i'll give you my answer then.
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