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Old 03-03-2014, 09:33 PM   #1
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What are you working on? I'm real glutton for punishment, and working on two. One a 38 or39 hotrod or midget motor with all American made parts. The other is all NOS. I have to be getting senile. It's taken 12 years to find all the best parts and I still don't have an engine together. Maybe this year??? The goofiest part is that I don't plan on putting them in anything. I just like them. What's your story?
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:00 PM   #2
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I love them as well, have (5), but only running one in my 37 Tudor. Have early stainless steel sided ones, 37 iron sides, a 40. Even got one on an engine stand in my office.
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:21 PM   #3
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I know what you guys mean...... I have a 37' "tin side" all original on a stand in my shop just to look at. My uncle has an iron side, doing the same thing. Fully restored motors never to go in a car. We sold a 40' and another that was a spare for a midget. We had bought 3 motors and a isles full of NOS parts from the estate of a midget racer that raced here in Detroit. The 47' Curtis was for sale too but for $25k. I sat in it and man those guys must have been beat up by the end of a race!
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:39 PM   #4
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I have three 60hp engines that I am hoarding and have no idea what I will ever do with them, but I just love having them around .
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:48 PM   #5
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I love them too. They are so rare. parts are so hard to find and very pricey when you do. Let's all get together and share info. Ray
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:02 AM   #6
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I've got probably 6 or 7. Lots of parts, too but I haven't done anything with any of them.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:32 AM   #7
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French Ford took them over. Im not very good at french, but I'm a member of the French Ford Vedette Club. This is what they write about the engine:
Le petit V8

En Amérique, le moteur 3,6 l devient trop gros pour une voiture populaire, il faut un moteur plus léger. En 1935, un moteur V8 à 90° avec soupapes latérales et arbre à cames central de 2,222 l (66,04 mm x 81,28 mm), 60 ch. à 3800 t/min, est étudié pour être monté sur la V8-60. Ce petit moteur ne se vend pratiquement pas en Amérique.

En 1948, dans les nouvelles usines de Poissy, on étudie un moteur V8 de 2,158 l (66,04 mm x 78,8 mm), taux de compression de 6,8/1 et 60 ch. à 4000 t/min. Il est monté dans la F492 et la nouvelle Vedette.
En 1950 on modifie l’arbre à cames et les soupapes, on porte le taux de compression à 7/1 et la puissance passe à 66 ch. pour 4600 t/min.

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So I'm driving this engine in my Ford Vedette:


The original US prototype, as sold to French Ford:
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:04 AM   #8
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I like e'm too, but there horrible when you have hills.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:18 AM   #9
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I like the little buggers and critters also! I have two restored stock engines, two good running take outs, and three complete non running engines. I have a 37 two door slantback with a tin sided sixty not leaking, a 37 two door slantback and a 38 two door humpback. ..both with iron sided thrifty sixties..all three cars run perfectly...plenty of get up and go...but things definately slow down on steep hills...straightaways are good! Biggest maintenance seems to be the darn water pumps...have learned that during rebuilds the back of the plastic impeller and the back of the water pump need to be smooth or else there can be leaks...plus the factory recommended rubber rings and metal spacers need to be in place per specifications. With a modern five speed transmission or a two speed rear end these engines become very interesting!!!

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Old 03-04-2014, 08:21 AM   #10
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I built this one for my uncle it was a pain to fix went through 3 engines to make this one right.Darrell
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:54 AM   #11
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Nice. How many hp??
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:40 AM   #12
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Le petit V8

En Amérique, le moteur 3,6 l devient trop gros pour une voiture populaire, il faut un moteur plus léger. En 1935, un moteur V8 à 90° avec soupapes latérales et arbre à cames central de 2,222 l (66,04 mm x 81,28 mm), 60 ch. à 3800 t/min, est étudié pour être monté sur la V8-60. Ce petit moteur ne se vend pratiquement pas en Amérique.

En 1948, dans les nouvelles usines de Poissy, on étudie un moteur V8 de 2,158 l (66,04 mm x 78,8 mm), taux de compression de 6,8/1 et 60 ch. à 4000 t/min. Il est monté dans la F492 et la nouvelle Vedette.
En 1950 on modifie l’arbre à cames et les soupapes, on porte le taux de compression à 7/1 et la puissance passe à 66 ch. pour 4600 t/min.

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In America, the 3.6-liter engine gets too big for a popular car, it is a lighter engine. In 1935, a V8 engine at 90 ° with side valves and camshaft central 2.222 l (66.04 mm x 81.28 mm), 60 ch. 3800 rev / min, is intended to be mounted on the V8-60. This little engine is hardly sells in America.

In 1948, in the new plants Poissy, V8 2.158 l (66.04 mm x 78.8 mm) is studied, the compression ratio of 6.8 / 1 and 60 c. 4000 t / min. It is mounted in the F492 and the new entry.
In 1950 camshaft and the valves are changed, the compression ratio is raised to 7/1 and the power is 66 ch. to 4600 t / min.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:50 AM   #13
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This ones a build for my ten year old son. Should be done by the time he's of age to drive it.

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Old 03-04-2014, 01:49 PM   #14
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Nice work Darrell. What did your uncle put it in? Cool T bucket Tony. Ray
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:55 PM   #15
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I know that the torque range for our big flatheads is around 2400 to 2600 rpm. Where is the sweet spot for 60's?
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:15 PM   #16
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Nice. How many hp??
It is possible to get 100 hp from one in street form.
This will be from a 160 cubic inches.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:22 PM   #17
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I put a 60hp in my MGTD a few years ago and with a Mustang t-5 gearbox and 3.9 gears in the rear end it does quite well. Always looking for another engine. Marvin,ct
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:31 PM   #18
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I understand that a lot of these engines and parts are being snapped up by guys, putting them in custom motorcycles. Some are taking all they can find. It's a new business.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:48 PM   #19
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I understand that a lot of these engines and parts are being snapped up by guys, putting them in custom motorcycles. Some are taking all they can find. It's a new business.
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Like this. Been a long time since I started this project, hope to finish soon.
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Like this. Been a long time since I started this project, hope to finish soon.
right up my street , I love it ,
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