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Old 10-03-2013, 06:56 AM   #1
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I sense there could be a debate judging from posts I've seen that touch on this subject, so here's a couple questions to kick it off:
1. How many run whitewalls on their Model As?
2. Were factory whitewalls ever available on early Fords (A,B, V8)? If so, when?
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:16 AM   #2
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No factory Whitewalls until 1934. That is why some folks don't like them on A's. In my opinion they were available during that time and well before, so if folks like them, then they are still "period correct". But to each their own, on their own cars. Not for fine point judging,
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I sense there could be a debate judging from posts I've seen that touch on this subject, so here's a couple questions to kick it off:
1. How many run whitewalls on their Model As?
2. Were factory whitewalls ever available on early Fords (A,B, V8)? If so, when?
1) The trend is not a prevalent now as it was in the 60's & 70's however old habits die young. One observation that I have noticed is it seems the elderly are more likely to run whitewalls than the younger generation. Naturally there are exceptions to that mindset but many are now more versed in what is correct.

2) Whitewalls were not available as a OEM installed item on the Model-A. I cannot answer towards Ford's latter years but I would suspect it would have been post-depression on the majority but offered in 34 or 35. One thing to point out is most, -if not all whitewall tires that were available during the Model-A era were actually whitewalled on both sides, ...not just on one side like we find on today's 19 & 21 inch tires.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:24 AM   #4
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i have them on my 29
i will be removing them from my 29
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i have them on my 29
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I don't have them on my 31.
I would like to put them on my 31.
current age 52

Guess Brent is spot on! Whoa! Elderly?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:06 AM   #7
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I think they look very nice on my cars color scheme. Bought it that way
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:32 AM   #8
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I have WWs on my 29 Coupe.
I like WWs on the most Prewar-Cars.
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I have them on my 29 Roadster. I like them, and since it is my car, then they are correct.

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:53 AM   #10
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Have Black tires and wheels on my 29 and 30 my choice Age 70
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I'm 44 and my cars are 80 and 85 years old, both have black painted wire spoke rims and black firestone tires.
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I have www on mine running '35 spoke wheels. They also came on the wheels. When I do buy new tires I will not run whitewalls simply because they are more expensive.
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My '30 coupe currently has blackwalls. Got it that way from my friend, who was 82 when he died three yrs ago. It has less to do with taste than frugality. It will need new tires in the spring and I will probably get blackwalls to keep it original. I'm 64. (My '41 Hudson now has whitewalls, incidentally, because I like the way it looks with them).
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Got them on my 31 roadster [avatar] & 28 Chrysler and like them..66 years young
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My '30 Town Sedan, '30 CCPU, and '42 Tudor have whitewalls. The Town Sedan and Tudor came that way and look nice. The CCPU is finished as a Fire Chief's car and I reasoned during the restoration that being the Chief's car would be blinged out a bit. All the rest have blackwalls.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:58 AM   #16
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I have whitewalls on my '32 roadster. They will be black when I replace them. I think you can again buy whitewalls that are white on both sides, talk about a job to keep them clean. I am 69.

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Have them on my 31 Tudor Deluxe. True about factory not offering them, but a lot of authorized stuff was sold by the dealer, if the buyer wished to pay for them. That's the problem. Most folks that bought a Ford were on a budget, and WW tires were an extravagance. The economy began to stabilize by '35 so there became more of a market for those little extras. I'm 64. I have 'em on a stepdown Hudson & a 50 Cadillac.as well. Frankly, I love the look, but I think that I spend more time cleaning the WWs than with any thing else for maintenance. Curious, the folks at the Hudson Forum just asked a similar question regarding the stepdown cars (48-54). Nine out of 10 preferred WWs.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:15 AM   #18
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I have whitewalls on my coupe, black walls on the speedster. Current age 20, I think some cars & color combinations look good with them and some don't.
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Take them off???...."pry them from my cold dead hands"
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:24 AM   #20
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All the cars I had as a youth had whitewalls. If they didn't, we either painted them on or got those fake ones that just fit under the rim. So, since I grew up with them I have them on my '29 roadster. I like them and think they make the car look a little sportier. Or, maybe it's just a bow to the past. I think Brent is right, though, young folks don't have them and don't want them. But isn't that partly because they've never, or hardly ever, seen a late model car, the kind they would buy, with them?
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I have them on my 31 roadster and it is time to for a new set, I had black walls on it for 15 years and I don't like it and it looks much better with than with out. To hell with the judging standards. Im 52
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:27 AM   #22
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I have whitewalls on my '31 std. coupe, got a good deal on them years ago, when I replace them, they will be blackwalls. age 65
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White or more like gray side walls were available before that in the Model T era. The tire casing were white/gray natural rubber and a black cap with carbon added was put on the casing to make the tire longer lasting.
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"......however old habits die young."

And bad habits last forever. Just sayin......
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Edsel mustav liked 'em.
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i have them on my 29
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Same... except for age. 52.

Working toward black wheels and black tires. Then I'll be at peace. But $$$, $$$, $$$! Got my black wheels, and now saving for tires.
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I think that black walls look more original on a model A and I prefer them. This is the only model A with original wheels that I've ever had with whitewalls. I got a good deal on these. I was going to paint over the whitewalls and turn the black side out. Deb said keep them white and paint the wheels red and that is what i did. I think that whitewalls look best with darker colored wheels. I'm 66 soon to be 67 . In the sixties,if my newer cars didn't have whitewalls, I either used porta walls or white shoe polish to make them white. By 1971 it had to be blackwalls and either chrome or aluminum wheels on the modern cars

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Old 10-03-2013, 12:11 PM   #28
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Might be wise, (just in case one may want to consider what are other family member's preferences), to ask one's wife, girl friend, children, or more mature grandchildren for an opinion on whether they prefer whitewalls & painted wheels in a color, as opposed to black-walls with black painted wheels.

Appears females & the younger group usually tend to keep up more with what the general public will think is more appropriate in any era.

In asking several younger people & females recently for comparison while looking at Model A's in Model A magazines, appears most like whitewalls with straw colored wheels.

Found it quite humorous that most thought that black walls & black wheels made the owner look like a sort of very old scrooge type of stingy, cheap Paw-Paw or Maw-Maw Model A owner -- my generation might have described such a person as a "too old to cut the mustard" old grouch type of person.

However, in my sincere opinion, have sincere respect for the wishes of other Model A owners -- whether thinking originality, numbers of points, or whatever, again, each to his own, & do what makes one content -- life is so short.

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Old 10-03-2013, 12:23 PM   #29
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It is personal thing, your car your money. I for one never really cared what some else though I should like.
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I personally don't like white walls on 20's and 30's cars. I especially don't like them on dark colored cars with dark wheels. My background is art and design and to me the just pull the eye to the tire not the whole car. But there's a seat for every ass right?

Here is a perfect example. What is the first thing your eyes are drawn too?

Its a beautiful car but I find the white walls distracting. Just my opinion and schooling.
Heres one for comparison. You take in the whole car not just look at the whitewalls.


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And I'm only 40!!!
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I like them all. not much for the stone guard, but it is his car not mine.
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Had them on when car was purchased. Replace w/o when I redid the wheels which were rustoleum yellow. (avitar) what you see is what I got.
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Can we put this to rest, it is like politics we will never agree completely, and it doesn't matter anyhow.
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I am kinda liking that black 4 door with the yellow 16's. Thanks Tiny.
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Shhh. Don't point that out or we will have to start a new thread about wheels!!
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i'm here, why?

I personally don't like white walls on 20's and 30's cars. I especially don't like them on dark colored cars with dark wheels. My background is art and design and to me the just pull the eye to the tire not the whole car. But there's a seat for every ass right? :d

here is a perfect example. What is the first thing your eyes are drawn too?

its a beautiful car but i find the white walls distracting. Just my opinion and schooling.
Heres one for comparison. You take in the whole car not just look at the whitewalls.


and some more examples...



and i'm only 40!!!
Save the whitewalls for your 56 cadillac!!!
i could not agree more!!!!
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Have them on 29. They came with the car. I like them and will keep them. I am 74 years young.
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My 31's got white walls. I like them cuz they match my hair! (I'm 60)

Is anyone graphing the results of this informal poll on preference and age???
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ALL: Look at the avatar, and you will know the answer for THIS redneck.
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Once upon a time Denman made a double whitewall (back in the 1960's and perhaps early '70's), but it is my understanding that they have long since ceased to be involved in producing either blackwall or whitewall tires. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who may be producing these?
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I have whitewalls on my '30 Deluxe Coupe, but I think I'll change to blackwalls when I need to buy new tires. Although my car looks good in whites, I feel that the car should have blackwalls, considering the year. That's just my humble opinion.
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I have whitewalls on my '30 Deluxe Coupe. They were on the car when I bought it. They really look nice on my car, but I still feel that I'll put blackwalls on the car when it's time to replace the tires. I feel that the black tires are more appropriate for the era the car was built. That's just my opinion.
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Two of my "A"s are black walls but my 30 roadster pickup had w/w's on it and I replaced them the same way. I'm 64.
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I'. What is the first thing your eyes are drawn too?
From that perspective you bring a valid point.

They do draw your eyes away from the rest of the vehicle. For me it is part of the package, I like 'em, I put them on my Motorcycles as well, but I do understand your point completely.
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I like the looks on my Roadster.
The side mount tire covers toned down the effect just enough.
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I have 'double' white sidewall tyres on our 1932 Ford 3 window coupe, they were a authorised 1932 Accessories, and factory installed 'special equipment'.
They are not hard to keep clean, and I think they make the car standout more.
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When I bought my restored Town Sedan about 6 years ago, it came with blackwalls on it, and I seriously considered changing them to whitewalls at the time. But a fellow Model A club member talked me out of it, saying to keep it original looking. I just bought new tires, and went to blackwall Goodyears. I am happy with my decision, but also feel that many Model A's certainly look nice with whitewalls, so to each, his own.............I am 68.

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I have a friend that said in the 50's on his hot rod he would buy WW's and run them inside out (WW's on the in board side)because they were better tires but he hated the look. He made it sound like it was the fashionable way to run them
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If I had a Packard or a Cadillac etc I'd be sporting whitewalls.

But I have a humble A Model Ford (and a bottom of the line roadster at that). To run WWs would seem pretentious.

If you look at photos of the period, Fords with WWs are mighty rare indeed.
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But in the photo 1 of the 5 whose tires can be seen has white walls. So they were out there.

Think it was the Captain's car?
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Think it was the Captain's car?
I think they were all donated to the PD and the one with the WWs came from Barnum & Bailey. It was a retired clown car.
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I admire the look of fat whitewalls on Packards, LaSalles, Cords, & Duesenbergs, because that's how they came. However, Model A's never came from Henry that way, and with the skinnier tires, the whitewalls really look out of place. Love my black Lesters....
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My 28 Sport Coupe has WW's,
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I'm 42 and enjoy the looks of each equally.
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I have a late 30 standard tudor black on black with blackwalls. and im 50
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1930 tudor black walls
1930 Fordor Briggs whitewalls
1930 coupe blackwalls
1930 Townsedan blackwalls

Wish I had whitewalls on the tudor as the wife seems to think they "dress-up" the car. Either way for me depending on the colors.
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71 years old. Been driving Ford Model A's (I've had about 15 of them) for over 50 years. All except one ('31 Dlx Roadster) had black walls. The '31 Roadster had them because they looked especially good on the six 16" K-H wheels, and they did come with the car when I bought it in 1965.
A big 'fashion sense' is how the wheel/tire/black fender/ body color all comes together. Most all Model A's came with black wheels (later exceptions on some of the '31 models). A black tire, black wheel and black fenders - make for a rather dull (even though 'factory correct') appearance. However, with a colored (non black) wheel (dealers charged about $5 for color in 1928-'31) to break up the black on black on black drolness, the black-wall tires don't look bad. The absolute best combination if one were to wear white-wall tires would be on black wheels, to help 'sport' up the eye appeal.
I do have a set of the correct double-sided white-wall tires (n.o.s.from a special run in 1965) for the 21" wheels on my '28 Phaeton. However, they are not mounted because when I restored the car (Duchess Blue, with French Grey pin stripe) in 1979, I opted to paint all six of my wheels the optional ($5 extra from the dealer) French Grey. I felt that the white-wall tires would detract from the beauty of the grey wheels. So I have had original black-wall Firestone (cross and tepee tread design) tires on the car since that time. I also had another set of Black wheels with black tires to help the Blue Ribbon judges feel more 'comfortable'.
My '31 Dlx Coupe (Ford Maroon, Red Stripe) , on the other hand has Black 19" Kelsey-Hayes wheels with single sided White-wall Firestone tires. I think it looks great - much better looking than black tires on black wheels. I have another set of wheels for this car - 18" Kelsey-Hayes - which I will be painting Red, to match the pinstripe color on the car. With the red wheels, if I were to follow my general rule-of-thumb, you would think that I would put on black-wall tires. However, because the 18" wheels have a smaller diameter, and the hub-to-rim spoke distance is significantly shorter than a stock 19" A wheel, and the large V-8 style center hub, with it's large 8" chrome hubcap - makes me feel I can 'get away' with having both a colored (red) wheel AND a sporty white-wall tire. What makes it even more enticing to me is that I can get (they are currently being made) the correct double-sided white-wall tires for the 18" rims.
So it all boils down to - what YOU like is what is correct ! However I do think that for some, it is important - or at least of some interest - to know what was factory 'correct', what was dealer 'correct', and what was 1930 owner 'correct'. Then one can better assess how one 'fits' into the scheme of 'All Things Ford". Which gets us back to - What YOU like is correct.
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I like them both my 30 Pickup has white walls and my 31 Tudor is has black. Both can look very nice.

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I am a relatively new Model A owner, although I own a bunch 'a old cars, a Model T included, but the very first change I made to my car is take the white wall tires off, paint 'em black, and mount 'em inward. Now I don't look like a 76-year-old anymore when driving my car!






In my not so humble opinion, a Model A with white walls symbolizes a pretty boy, wearing a bow-tie and smelling the flowers, whereas a Model A with black wall tires symbolizes somebody like Steve McQueen.

I like white wall tires on certain cars, but absolutely not on any Model T or Model A.
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I have whitewalls on my 30 Deluxe Coupe and on my 31 Vicky. Also have wide whites on my 56 Belair Convertible. I like the way they look and plan on keeping them on all of them...
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I'm 75 and have owned my 29 tudor 52 years. Wheels are black, car is vagabond/rock moss green. White tires look better to me. Sure do like it.
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When I was younger all my Model A's had white wall tires. I thought that the white wall spare on the back might be a safety factor when driving at night with one tail light. Now all of my Model A's have black wall tires because of tire prices.

Nothing worse than "yellow wall" tires on yellow wheels, as on my A's back in the 80's. Remember the Allstate white walls that would turn back yellow before they were dry no mater how much Bleche-Wite you put on them?
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Since we are using the age thing to track a trend I am 42 and really dislike whitewalls. Rod
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I like white walls on certain cars and blackwalls on others. The pickup I went with blackwalls and the sedan has whitewalls.
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I don't think either makes a car look bad. My grandpa always used whitewalls on his A's. They looked good. When I purchased new tires, I went with blackwalls for the sole reason that it was a lot cheaper ($75 per tire) with the brand tire I was buying. I'd go back to white walls if I got a good deal on some tires.

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I have white walls and am very happy with them. My '39 Ford pickup truck has 3 white walls on Momma's side.
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I just turned 69 tuesday. When I acquiired my tudor, the white walls (dual sidemounts) were already on there from the late 80's. Tires still good so haven't changed (no money) over yet to 16" and blackwalls. I do however like WW's on some A's more than others, I also thnk they look good on mine. JMO
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Do I have a choice ? My 28 roadster has it's original spare and runs on Atlas tires My 30 Fordor is on 55 year old Goodyear tires with like new tread , and still look pretty good .All are black wall .I don't do hi way traveling .
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I happen to think a lot of cars look good with white walls, including some of the A's. As a personal choice, however, I prefer black walls on my 1930 Town Sedan..... Just looks more authentic to me, and I also doubt many Model A's were equiped with white walls back in the '30's...... Money was way too tight, and just owning a car in the Model A class had to be a challenge for most. Period photos seem to bear this out. I am 69.
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I have no tires for my 29 (21inch ) so if anyone's not happy with what they have Ill take them....not very concerned at this point
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I paid for my car and could care less what some one else thinks I should like.
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Brother Hesekiel, no. 59 post, those aren't Model A wheels, whether they're white wall or not.
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This is a matter of, "To Each His Own".
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Yep, like Ricky Nelson sang, if you can't please others, then you gotta please yourself.
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What? A truck with white walls? Trucks were trucks until after the war. Came the late '50s we started seeing non farm women driving a pickup and some white tires. Never before then!
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I thought this thread died???
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Talked into blackwalls for my 31 and aways wished I had went the other way. Just bought a set of ww for my 30 roadster. well worth the money and trouble for the look.
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I have them on my 30.
I will be replacing them soon with more whitewalls.
Current age 27

Good debate though - while I like the way they look on my car, other cars look awesome without whitewalls.
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Talking with my dad years ago he said that during the depression tires were of such poor quality that they were lucky to get a few months out of some tires. If they traveled any distance they would they would carry two or three extra tires. So whatever Henry put on the car was pretty short lived. I think most people were just happy to have tires with air in them. Maybe it would be appropriate to have different style tires on each wheel.
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There were whitewalls on my '30 Dlx Coupe when I bought it 14 years ago. When I replace the tires, they'll be blackwalls. I feel that black tires more correctly represent what the car looked like when it was new. That's my opinion and I'm 76.
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My wife said she would pay for the paint job & I could pick out the color I wanted, But she wanted WHITEWALLS !! SOoooooo----- P.S. The wheels go back to BLACK !!

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Put whitewalls on her side and black walls on your side. you can only see one side at the time, that way you will both be happy. insert smiley face
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Being new to this. I have bought so many new parts or had original parts redone and the cost is killing me. There is one real whitewall on the car and the rest were painted to look like a white wall. I am going to have to replace the tires from dry rot. I would like to have whitewalls but the cost is to much so I will be going with blackwalls just because of the cost. I am 53.
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My model "a" came with w/w tires so I'll wait till they wear out and buy black walls....reason... price... whitewalls = 171.00 - 215.00 - black walls = 99.00
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To each A owner their own in my book... I think some A's look very shape with whitewalls; mostly cars with color and as I define it, black is not a color... So if your car is lighter in color, generally to me whitewalls looks nice/right (historical correctness aside). I for one like my Black A, all in black...

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To each A owner their own in my book... I think some A's look very shape with whitewalls; mostly cars with color and as I define it, black is not a color... So if your car is lighter in color, generally to me whitewalls looks nice/right (historical correctness aside). I for one like my Black A, all in black...

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I agree with you. To me a dark car with white walls, the white walls stand out way too much. On a light color car they are now so bad. IMHO
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I have black walls on my 28 sport coupe and white walls on my 31 slant window cabriolet. I would really like to see how the Cab would look with black walls. Will have to wait till these wear out first. I'm 55
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Well im a year older now (51) and still like blackwalls but I will get back to all of you on my whitewallaphobia
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I am 49 and will always have black walls.
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35 and whitewalls on both cars.
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Black tires black rims for the wagon. Got it with wws and it looked foolish to me so new ones were black. 69ish
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31 Deluxe Phaeton Black walls

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I think the whitewalls should be painted to match the pinstripe.
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If I had a Packard or an Auburn or such I'd put whitewalls on but alas, I have a humble Ford.

Anything but blackwalls seems pretentious.
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I put whitewalls on my manure spreader.
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I put white walls on my phaeton in 1965 and it will have white walls on it when I'm gone! Just love them on a Model A.
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I have them on my 1930 coupe..Age 77
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I have them on my doodlebug but blackwalls on my 2 Model A drivers.
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Just changed my mind, put blackwalls on the doodlebug and sold the roadster so don't have to decide on that one. The coupe will keep it's blackwalls and the wheels are now black LOL

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I must be color blind, I either see black, yellow or a dingy tan walled tires.
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You must not be looking at the right cars, mine are perfectly white. Probably should get to the eye doctor quick.
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I have them on my 31 Roadster
Do not have them on my 31 Sedan
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I have numerous antique pre 1935 vehicles. Whitewalls on all except my truck! Obviously I think they look great. Wayne
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I never ran whitewalls on my ccpu,I don't think it would look that good on a truck.
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I'm a 1942 model.
1955: First car was a Model A with blackwalls
1956 Second car was a Model A with used blackwall radials from my neighbors Porsche.
1958 First car that I could legally drive: blackwalls, then whitewalls when I could afford them
1958-1962: All whitewalls.
62-mid 70's: Blackwalls on all hot rods and sports cars. WW on modern cars
late seventies to present: All blackwalls
Seems like the mid fifties to mid seventies whitewalls were required to be really cool. The coolest were the Vouges sp? with the checkered whitewalls and the V painted red. Never could afford those. I remember this was and remains a hot topic from the mid fifties to the present. None of this is the final word, only another old man's rambling about how it was in my day and my neighborhood.
PS I think whoever set up the spell checker likes whitewalls because it always changes blackwalls to blackballs. I think blackballs are a condition you get from bouncing down the freeway on ridiculous big wheels with little thin tires. ;<)
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White Walls are COOL. Over 60 and "goin like 60"
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Well lets talk price...to hell with aesthetics. Just got my new Brattons catalog. No complaints as I understand all the issues with bringing a product to market. BUT! it will be a cold day before I shell out over $200 per tire for whitwalls. I have them now but will replace the BW.
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Building the 31 Sport Coupe for my wife. I made my plea for blackwalls... she insisted on whitewalls. Damn the price or my suggestion.
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What ever happened to making a Model A look like a Model A from the factory ? just watched 2015 pancake breakfast on youtube 1/2 cars had 16" wheels most had white walls ,talk about puke. makes me angry to look at em.
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Women are not known for admitting their age so all I'll say is I'm somewhere between 72 and 74. I can relate to JBill and the cheap whitewalls of white rubber paint or the ones that fit under the rim. I felt soooooooooo cool in my 51 Stude convertible and white walls. At 50 mph or 50 feet they looked ligit. It's hard not to relive my youth thru my Model A with WW's. My fleet is split between BW and WW. Most I purchased already had the WW's..Maybe that's why I bought the car, for the WW tires. :

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My dad will be turning 95 this year. He has told me that the Model A back in the 30s was a cheap car and he can't recall seeing one with whitewalls. I don't like them myself as IMHO they look like lipstick on a pig. Don't like straw colored wheels either and prefer black. I am painting over them on my 29 pickup with black tire paint. But to each his own.
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We have ran black walls on our Model A Fords for about 40 years because I could not afford the extra price of the whitewalls. We are finally financially secure and now we have white walls and I like them best. They do look sharp! I don't like cleaning the whitewalls though. I am 70 years old.
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Nice looking cars. At 78 I still like white walls on some cars.
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What cars George? About the only one I like with them is a 40 Buick Roadmaster coupe with clear road lights. PS, I'm 79
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Blackwalls, red wheels...
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What ever happened to making a Model A look like a Model A from the factory ? just watched 2015 pancake breakfast on youtube 1/2 cars had 16" wheels most had white walls ,talk about puke. makes me angry to look at em.
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I went looking through old 1930 vintage photos to find white walls. Whether you like them or not, they were certainly not a common sight in the 1930's. I think so many Model A Fords have white walls because when they were first restored in the 1950s and 60s white walls were common and a big deal.
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Brent is dead on as to their availablility. And dead wrong about his elders. Me I am 78, never had a white wall, and never will on a Model A Ford. hee hee...
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We have ran black walls on our Model A Fords for about 40 years because I could not afford the extra price of the whitewalls. We are finally financially secure and now we have white walls and I like them best. They do look sharp! I don't like cleaning the whitewalls though. I am 70 years old.
That may we very the reason others don't have white walls, because of the cost difference. I am sure many would like them but they just can't afford them. Wayne

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I think they look good with some color schemes as Ray64 points out. If you're not into judging, go with what looks good to you. My AA truck obviously has black walls, but I might put WW on one of my other As. BTW, it seems that I may be the oldest goat to reply so far at 74. How did I get here?
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My car is a Chicle and Copra 1930 Town Sedan and I have whitewalls. For the first 18 years the car had black tires and I was able to buy the whites slightly used at a very good price. The Ford Barner I bought them from had a black coupe with black wheels and wanted to go with black tires. Oh, by the way I'm 66 yrs. old.
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White walls on my coupe (30) Black walls on my pickup (30) Now age 78
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Ripe ol' age of 70 and fortunately can "afford" Whitewalls for all my vehicles.

But I choose Black. It makes me feel younger!
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I have ww on my 31 phaeton and 31 coupe both have 16" wheels and black walls on my other cars age 69
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Never a question as to the color of the tires. All my cars (Model A and Modern) have blackwalls. Now on the other hand, I keep playing around with wheel colors. I have a full set of Tacoma Cream (or straw, or whatever), a full set of Green (probably too bright to be Apple Green) and 3 black wheels, all 19". And then there's the raft of 16" wheels with the 19" centers 4 are red, two are a yellowish beige.

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Ok, just stumbled on this thread, and thought I would put my 2 cents in. I recently bought my first (since dads 28AR way back in 50's). it is a 29 Tudor, with excellent almost new blackwall tires on black wheels. The body is painted what I assume (and we all know what happens when we assume). is andalisite blue, as it looks black indoors, but blue in the sunlight. I bought it on a very cloudy day, and thought it was black until it was delivered on a sunny day.LOL. Anyway, since it is a lot go dark on black on black, on black, I would kinda like to change the color of the wheels to a lighter color. Since it is not and as long as I have it never will be a show car, The wheel color doesn't have to be correct. I just can't figure what would go with the DARK blue. Maybe cream? A light blue? Red? any opinions, or suggestions as to how to see what would look best without painting 2 wheels? OH, by the way I am about to turn 75, and I like both black and whitewalls. My 65 mustang has whitewalls, (it is a show car). but my 64 Ranchero has blackwalls.
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oldforder,
This link might help with color choices.

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My ‘29 snowmobile (avatar) needs blackwalls, but my ‘29 Tudor had whitewalls and I loved them. My ‘66 Mustang GT has whites. I am 78.

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A lot depends on your car's appearance with WW or BW.
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My 1930 Tudor has the white Walls.
My age,... euh I'll be back. I have to look on my ID card...
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Wow, old thread!

I don't see much debate about WW on light trucks. BW is the only way to go, of course . Most trucks, especially pickups, that I see with WW are also laden with accessories.
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Oldforder, if you have pin stripes paint your wheels that color. If you don’t have pin stripes, I feel a medium blue would look nice! Paint a piece of metal and then hold it up to your car and see what YOU like :-)
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The paint and finish guide shows a French gray pin stripe for that color
so I think that would be a good color for the wheels.

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Prussian Blue like Marco's roadster.
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For me whitewalls have it.....as Ricky Nelson would say " If you cant please everyone than you got to please yourself".
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Don't be fooled.
Model A's DID come with whitewall tires, you just had to pay extra for them, that's all.
Most back then did not have the disposable cash to fork out for them
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I'm 51 and he is 48 our car is now all black and not a good job. it was Andalusite Blue body
with black fenders and Aurora wheels, grey interior. we will be going back to that color combination and I want white walls he does not. there will be white walls he does not clean a car i do them all.
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BURNER 1, You Missed this 68C ad with Whitewalls.
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Wow, old thread!

I don't see much debate about WW on light trucks. BW is the only way to go, of course . Most trucks, especially pickups, that I see with WW are also laden with accessories.
Yup 4 1/2 years and 8 pages. Maybe I'll start one about pudding or ice cream, Chocolate or vanilla.
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You're right, we should change that...
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A friend has a Victoria with black wheels on her side and apple green on his side!
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I don't care what others want. I know what I want and I don't care if I am in the minority or the majority. I also do not read posts that start with; "Did you ever" or "Has anyone ever - - - " Have your druthers and stick to em.
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i am putting white walls on my 1930 Fordor black wheels .My 28A roadster original tires are black Atlas tires and red tubes

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I started buying White Walls when I started drinking Tennessee Whiskey. My hair was blonde then white now. Goodyear Diamond tread.
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I started buying White Walls when I started drinking Tennessee Whiskey. My hair was blonde then white now. Goodyear Diamond tread.

When the barber cuts the hair over my ears so short that the skin shows, I call it my "whitewalls."

Since this is the thread that wouldn't die, whitewalls on my Sport Coupe because they're, well...sporty!
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Whitewalls on my 1930 Cabriolet with orange wheels. Blackwalls on my 31 all Black Tudor and Red Speedster. And, BTW, I am only 85 years young.


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Putting new white walls on my 31 on the 4th of july to celebrate my independence day from the conformity of the judging standards and those who say it is isn't OEM.
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Bought it (my roadster) with WW's and added 16 inch rims, sticking with the whitewalls, was an old 58 at the time, am still running them at young 82, yesterday. Still have both sets and trade off sometimes. 16's a much better ride and don't follow groves in the road so much. Stop much better also.
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I know that this a topic with strong sentiments on both sides. But as for white walls, are there any tire manufacturers who currently produce a "double" whitewall. I know that Denman used to produce these back in the 60's and maybe early 70's, but I have not seen new "double white walls" in quite a few years.
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Our '31 roadster runs with white walls because we bought it that way and my wife likes them. It is her ride and she gets to decide these things on her car. I just fix things and keep it running for her.

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Fitting the cost of things into ones budget is always critical. Not sure the BW vs WW price comparison is accurate. Yes, you can get a Lucas BW for 99, but the do not make a WW.

Firestone, Bridgestone, Lester make both and the price difference is 34 or 40. Still for 4 tires, $160 buys a lot of gasoline to drive the A vs just looking at it.

I need a pair of rear tires, but would like a set (5) Lester WWs. Does the benefit or joy of changing offset the cost difference? That is an individual question to answer.

I will let you know how the Lester’s feel.
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After much consideration, we decided to go with the white walls, not sure if I will do it again when the time comes to replace the though?
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I may be a blackwall guy, but the whitewalls look right on your car. Being a Victoria may help some too.
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