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Thomas Overbaugh · 05-20-2017, 05:52 PM

I have a cowl and gas tank with a Briggs body tag #159 - 6220. What was this car? It is not listed in the new judging book. It is a 30 31 style with a stainless steel cowl band. It was an open car as it has the removable short stations for an open car with a folding windshield.

Great Lakes Greg · 05-20-2017, 09:22 PM

A Deluxe Phaeton.

RawhideKid · 05-20-2017, 09:32 PM

Well crap. Here all the information I have found says a 30-31 Deluxe Phaeton is 180A.

I can't find anything saying what a 159 is.

Where did you find that Greg?

foxfire42 · 05-20-2017, 09:50 PM

I believe the #159 is the Briggs Company body # and the 180A if the Ford number

Bob C · 05-20-2017, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawhideKid

Well crap. Here all the information I have found says a 30-31 Deluxe Phaeton is 180A.

I can't find anything saying what a 159 is.

Where did you find that Greg?

Check out this link page 2 near the bottom http://www.mafca.com/downloads/Techn...dy_Numbers.pdf

Bob

RawhideKid · 05-20-2017, 09:56 PM

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Thanks Bob, I don't have that piece of information. Now I do.

CHuDWah · 05-21-2017, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C

Check out this link page 2 near the bottom http://www.mafca.com/downloads/Techn...dy_Numbers.pdf

Bob

The chart on your link says 159 is the serial number prefix. So presumably 6220 is the serial number of the OP cowl. However, the chart shows 3,945 Deluxe Phaetons in 1930 and 2,229 in 1931 for a total of 6,174 (granted it says that’s approximate production). Were the bodies not sequentially numbered or is the chart off by at least 46 units?

swo4rd · 05-14-2020, 12:30 AM

This will be undocumented for now but I am working on it...Ford originally gave the new Sports Phaeton the number designation A159. Briggs missed that memo and started stamping out body plates up to about 6500. These plates also had a nice old ford serifed type font. Ford marketing changed the name of the car to Deluxe Phaeton and also the body style number to 180A...But Briggs never changed the designation number...as I said undocumented...urban legend but I'm working on that answer.

Steve Plucker · 05-14-2020, 04:25 AM

According to the Ford Motor Company's Assembly Record Type documents, here is the following break-down of the 180-A Deluxe Phaeton's (Briggs Body Tag #159-xxxx) production numbers:

1930
Domestic (USA):3946
Foreign:257
England:10
Canada:152
TOTAL:4365

1931
Domestic (USA):2229
Foreign:463
England:7
Canada:176
TOTAL:2875

1932
Domestic (USA):1
Foreign:219
England:0
Canada:4
TOTAL:224

Grand Total: 7464

Pluck

05-20-2017, 09:22 PM	#2
Great Lakes Greg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,369	Re: Briggs cowl #159 A Deluxe Phaeton.

05-20-2017, 09:32 PM	#3
RawhideKid BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Lower Left Coast Posts: 469	Re: Briggs cowl #159 Well crap. Here all the information I have found says a 30-31 Deluxe Phaeton is 180A. I can't find anything saying what a 159 is. Where did you find that Greg?

05-20-2017, 09:50 PM	#4
foxfire42 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ and WA Posts: 764	Re: Briggs cowl #159 I believe the #159 is the Briggs Company body # and the 180A if the Ford number

05-20-2017, 09:56 PM	#6
RawhideKid BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Lower Left Coast Posts: 469	Re: Briggs cowl #159 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks Bob, I don't have that piece of information. Now I do.

05-14-2020, 12:30 AM	#8
swo4rd Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Posts: 364	Re: Briggs cowl #159 This will be undocumented for now but I am working on it...Ford originally gave the new Sports Phaeton the number designation A159. Briggs missed that memo and started stamping out body plates up to about 6500. These plates also had a nice old ford serifed type font. Ford marketing changed the name of the car to Deluxe Phaeton and also the body style number to 180A...But Briggs never changed the designation number...as I said undocumented...urban legend but I'm working on that answer.

05-20-2017, 05:52 PM	#1
Thomas Overbaugh Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 28	Briggs cowl #159 I have a cowl and gas tank with a Briggs body tag #159 - 6220. What was this car? It is not listed in the new judging book. It is a 30 31 style with a stainless steel cowl band. It was an open car as it has the removable short stations for an open car with a folding windshield.

05-14-2020, 04:25 AM	#9
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Briggs cowl #159 According to the Ford Motor Company's Assembly Record Type documents, here is the following break-down of the 180-A Deluxe Phaeton's (Briggs Body Tag #159-xxxx) production numbers: 1930 Domestic (USA):3946 Foreign:257 England:10 Canada:152 TOTAL:4365 1931 Domestic (USA):2229 Foreign:463 England:7 Canada:176 TOTAL:2875 1932 Domestic (USA):1 Foreign:219 England:0 Canada:4 TOTAL:224 Grand Total: 7464 Pluck Last edited by Steve Plucker; 05-14-2020 at 05:23 AM.