Can you identify this car?

[Craig Lewis]

There's been an old vehicle in the woods behind my son's house for many years. It's past any hope of restoration but just for fun I got some pictures today... thinking someone here could possibly identify it.
I'll try and enter the pics in 2 posts.
...Here's all the info I have so far.
1)The cowl seems a bit deeper than a Model A and the frame is heavier.
2)It has running board braces, aprons & engine pans... suggesting 30's maybe?.
3)The battery is @ the same location as Model A.
4)On the bottom of the frame just fwd of the steering gear is a bracket with some numbers which might be FZ4344-1. Also I'm including the serial numbers from side of frame front left.
5)The crossmembers & frame have several stamped circles with the letter S and 1 (inside the circle)

Any info or ideas are all good
...as I haven't the foggiest idea

[Craig Lewis]

...a few more shots.

[Tom Wesenberg]

I don't have a clue as to make, but I've always wondered why just this much of a vehicle winds up in the woods. What happened to the rest of it, and if it was junked, why not the cowl and frame. That's how I got my first Model A frame. It was laying in my cousin's woods and he said come and get it. It had the tranny and rear end but no engine.

[85930tudor]

Wow, not much to go on.But some things make me want to say chrysler product maybee?

[Popeye31]

Mabe Studebaker

[Gary WA]

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Old!!

[Gumpy]

[Iappears to be a truck chassis possibly 1 ton,,,i would measure the length of the frame...gump[/I]

[gweilbaker]

A Field fresh find with extreme patina and of epic mechanical condition.

How's that?

[Huckster Dave]

I am thinking maybe a Star.

[jan bogert]

i'll ask this one guy i know, it looks like something he would have, or buy. LOL

[30modelA]

29 cadillac

[Buz]

Sure looks like a Dodge Bros cowl and chassis to me.

[Great Lakes Greg]

Is the "S" Studebaker? Makes you wonder about this cars life, doesn't it? It was shiney and new, once. The kids sat on the hood like a horse saddle and watched a Fourth of July parade. Maybe mom got a hurried ride when her water broke, and how many trips home in the cold winter night when the driver was tired and weary from a day on the road. Perhaps it took a long journey west for a better life during the depression. Great stories in this twisted steel that we'll never know.

[real550A]

That beefy splined boss and hub looking thing on the frame leads me to think it's
a truck of some sort. The position of it on the frame, so far forward intrigues me.

[Bruce Lancaster]

I think that is actually a rear view of half the steering box...main case and both shafts were yanked off leaving the sideplate.
Body appears to be metal structured...Ford and Mopar had that, who else circa 1930??

[CHuDWah]

My guess (and that's pretty much all it is) is MoPar. I do know they used S to identify a DeSoto (D was already taken for Dodge) - one would be larger and heavier than an A. Early MoPars did have the under-floor battery. They also had the serial number on one of the front door posts (or the dash on early cars). The same number was stamped in the frame location you mention and also over the rear axle.

[Craig Lewis]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

I think that is actually a rear view of half the steering box...main case and both shafts were yanked off leaving the sideplate.
Body appears to be metal structured...Ford and Mopar had that, who else circa 1930??

Yes Bruce that is part of the steering gear. The sector rode on a brass bushing and it's all like a giant Model A gear really. The firewall has some pressed Dnuts exactly like a Model A and waffle pattern rivet settting. At the base of this cowl there remains a piece of stainless cowl band, same width as a 30 Ford & same mounting stud. Has anyone noticed the right engine pan has a removable plate with 2 screws?
The 2 support stanchions where the firewall meets frame are very distinctive. Maybe someone will recognize these.
I'm guessing late thirties. The FZ on the front bracket sounds Ford to me....still stumped.

[Geo. H]

I there's two cowl vents under the leaves, could well be Molpar.

[mach0415]

I agree about it being MoPAR.

[mach0415]

I am almost positive it is a 1929 Desoto. The pics of the belt line at the cowl shows how the middle door hinge is part of the wide belt line that would continue to the rest of the body. Also, if you look at the cowl pics, at the top of the cowl you will see what appears to be a scalloped style line that moves center and outward toward the front from the bottom of the windshield. Typically, paint schemes would decorate this the same color as the belt line. Dodge truck had a similar cowl line, but there were 4 door hinges, none of which was in the style line. Willys, Star, Studes, Graham, Huppmobile, Buick, Olds, Poncho, Cads, Bowties, GMC etc. were not even close. 1929 Nash is more similar, but Desoto is the dead ringer. I'll let you judge.

desoto.jpg

1929_DeSoto_DeLujo.jpg

1929NashDriversSide.jpg