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48Flyer · 06-25-2012, 06:08 PM

Can anyone tell me if the headlight rings are the same? I have looked at both vehicles and they appear to be but have not had them off to compare.
I have a Merc that I would like to find a set for.
Thank you

19Fordy · 06-25-2012, 07:08 PM

Dennis Carpenter has both polish stainless and chrome plated rings for the 49 and 50 Ford. Usually if the part will fit a Mercury he states "Will also fit mercury" in his add.
I bet if you call them, they can tell you.

I just saw these. Call and see. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-1950-49...sories&vxp=mtr
and this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-1950-49...sories&vxp=mtr

Don Rogers · 06-25-2012, 07:10 PM

The 51 Merc headlight ring carries part number 1A-13045-B, so it is the same as Ford.

19Fordy · 06-25-2012, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Rogers

The 51 Merc headlight ring carries part number 1A-13045-B, so it is the same as Ford.

My Mercury catalog shows the 49-50 Merc headlight ring as
part # 0A-13045-C.

46fatford · 06-25-2012, 07:30 PM

49-50 F 1 trucks also use the same headlight ring as a 49 merc. We put 49 merc headlight rings on my friends 49 F 1 after he lost one on a trip.
Matt

paul2748 · 06-25-2012, 09:42 PM

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The guy is talking about a 51 - different than 49-50.

APDAVE · 06-25-2012, 10:54 PM

they are the same!

Mike51Merc · 06-26-2012, 07:12 AM

They're not exactly the same but they will fit. The Merc had chrome plated die cast metal and the Fords are stamped stainless.

The '51s had deep set headlights, the '49 and '50 were flush.

I have the 49-50 Dennis Carpenter repops on my '51 Merc. I had to drill a new mounting hole in the bottom of my headlight bucket.

amodel25 · 06-26-2012, 07:21 AM

My '51 Ford has chrome plated die cast metal headlight rings. I am pretty sure they are original to the car.

48Flyer · 06-26-2012, 07:57 AM

THEY are DIFFERENT!
The 51's are about 2 inches deep and are chrome plated cast rings, almost makes them looked frenched.
The 49-50 rings are small stainless rings.
I am looking for the 51 style.

rotorwrench · 06-26-2012, 08:19 AM

There may have been more than one supplier to FoMoCo on the 1A-13045-B so there could have been subtle differences in the same part number but both Ford and Mercury passenger cars used the same part number part in the 1951 model year. All the ones I've seen are zinc die castings. I think the part design was too deep a draw to used stainless steel effectively.

The Dennis Carpenter catalog has reproductions but I've not had a close look at them.

Mike51Merc · 06-26-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amodel25

My '51 Ford has chrome plated die cast metal headlight rings. I am pretty sure they are original to the car.

I was probably mistaken. I compared my friend's 51 Ford rings which must have been replaced some time ago.

06-25-2012, 06:08 PM	#1
48Flyer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North of Minneapolis, MN Posts: 160	51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury Can anyone tell me if the headlight rings are the same? I have looked at both vehicles and they appear to be but have not had them off to compare. I have a Merc that I would like to find a set for. Thank you

06-25-2012, 07:08 PM	#2
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury Dennis Carpenter has both polish stainless and chrome plated rings for the 49 and 50 Ford. Usually if the part will fit a Mercury he states "Will also fit mercury" in his add. I bet if you call them, they can tell you. I just saw these. Call and see. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-1950-49...sories&vxp=mtr and this http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-1950-49...sories&vxp=mtr Last edited by 19Fordy; 06-25-2012 at 07:13 PM.

06-25-2012, 07:10 PM	#3
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,792	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury The 51 Merc headlight ring carries part number 1A-13045-B, so it is the same as Ford.

06-25-2012, 07:30 PM	#5
46fatford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 338	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury 49-50 F 1 trucks also use the same headlight ring as a 49 merc. We put 49 merc headlight rings on my friends 49 F 1 after he lost one on a trip. Matt __________________ "..Nothin' outrun my V8 Ford" (Chuck Berry) S.M.I.B.

06-25-2012, 09:42 PM	#6
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,982	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The guy is talking about a 51 - different than 49-50.

06-25-2012, 10:54 PM	#7
APDAVE Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 228	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury they are the same!

06-26-2012, 07:12 AM	#8
Mike51Merc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,582	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury They're not exactly the same but they will fit. The Merc had chrome plated die cast metal and the Fords are stamped stainless. The '51s had deep set headlights, the '49 and '50 were flush. I have the 49-50 Dennis Carpenter repops on my '51 Merc. I had to drill a new mounting hole in the bottom of my headlight bucket.

06-26-2012, 07:21 AM	#9
amodel25 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 328	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury My '51 Ford has chrome plated die cast metal headlight rings. I am pretty sure they are original to the car.

06-26-2012, 08:19 AM	#11
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,431	Re: 51 Ford Vs 51 Mercury There may have been more than one supplier to FoMoCo on the 1A-13045-B so there could have been subtle differences in the same part number but both Ford and Mercury passenger cars used the same part number part in the 1951 model year. All the ones I've seen are zinc die castings. I think the part design was too deep a draw to used stainless steel effectively. The Dennis Carpenter catalog has reproductions but I've not had a close look at them.