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Old 06-14-2022, 06:24 AM   #1
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Least year I acquired a “1936” Phaeton which has recently proven to be a 1935 based upon frame numbering.

In a current Hemmings listing, a similar car’s description states that “only 33 are registered with the International Early V8 Club”, or words to this effect.

I find it a bit hard to believe that the 35s are this rare and would appreciate the group’s thoughts.

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Old 06-14-2022, 06:51 AM   #2
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Some people say anything in a listing, cause they heard it somewhere. I think you need to contact the early v8 club to be sure.
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:55 AM   #3
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Post pictures of the car in detail!! Plenty of knowledgeable folks here that can render a thought or three. A "few" probably "THE" most knowledgeable. AS Corvette8N says OR as an Old timer that used to work here always said - "That's their tale, I sitting on mine!"
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:01 AM   #4
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Did you buy a car or a collection of pieces?

Please post some photos or we will be spinning
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:07 AM   #5
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There's a lot more to distinguish between a '35 and '36 phaeton than the just the "frame numbering". Even with all of the front end bolt-on sheet metal and rear fenders missing, the cowls, chassis frames, gas tanks, and door handles are different as well as the upholstery and other interior details.

As for rates of survival, no one knows with any certainty, but judging from the number of both model year's examples that have come up for sale in recent years, neither can honestly be described as "rare".
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Old 06-14-2022, 08:06 AM   #6
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:13 AM   #7
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Several photos attached; two are from California dealer from which previous owner purchased car perhaps 8 or so years back
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:18 AM   #8
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Your '36 or someone else's '36? And when did we shift gears from '35 to '36 (noting the title of your thread)?
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My “36” with frame indicating 1935 manufacture
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Requesting help identifying correct year; engine is a “bitsa” so no joy there I’m afraid
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Old 06-14-2022, 12:12 PM   #11
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Lets start here: what are the frame number, transmission number and title number?
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Frame number indicates Sept 35 manufacture:
⭐️18-2449914⭐️

Maine does not title vintage cars

Cannot readily access trans inspection plate
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I guess if engine number matches above, then I do have a ‘36, irrespective of frame number ?
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Old 06-14-2022, 01:20 PM   #14
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The engine does not have a number. The transmission has a number.
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Old 06-14-2022, 02:14 PM   #15
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Then same comment - if transmission number matches that on frame then I have a ‘36 irrespective of date of frame manufacture ?

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Several photos attached; two are from California dealer from which previous owner purchased car perhaps 8 or so years back




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What's the body tag number say? Should be on the passenger side firewall, facing "up".
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Old 06-14-2022, 03:54 PM   #18
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Frame number indicates Sept 35 manufacture:
⭐️18-2449914⭐️
Note that this number is the "Motor number" and is an indication of when the original engine/transmission successfully passed engine test. It does not indicate when the vehicle was assembled.
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Old 06-14-2022, 04:12 PM   #19
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No joy on the body tag number; it is an after-market repro and boank
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Old 06-14-2022, 04:22 PM   #20
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Jacques, A question, does it have wire wheels or wide-five?

The Phaeton in the pictures shows characteristics of a 1936 model.
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