The Ford Barn

Mart · 12-11-2018, 12:59 PM

I started the 41pu and it was running very poorly. I took a series of short clips as I was working on it. Feel free to follow along - get a cuppa and spend 20 minutes with me in the garage.

https://youtu.be/V7ah1z-9i7M

Mart.

corvette8n · 12-11-2018, 03:46 PM

Thanks for the letting me in your shop long distance wise, if I ever get to England I'll be sure to look you up.

Step-down · 12-11-2018, 03:56 PM

Sounds like a dead plug

petehoovie · 12-11-2018, 06:15 PM

Tell us more about your "electronic unit". Is it a capacitive discharge unit?....

Mart · 12-11-2018, 06:21 PM

It's a Velleman "ignition amplifier" unit that retains the points in the distributor. Up until this problem I've never had any trouble from them. This is the third one I've ran. I've found them more reliable than condensers. I need to inspect it and see if there is anything obviously wrong with it.

I'll feed back with any more info as I work on getting the truck back running 100%.

Mart.

petehoovie · 12-11-2018, 06:45 PM

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CDI) unit. See > https://www.amazon.com/Velleman-K254...leman+ignition

Velleman K2543 Electronic Transistor Ignition Kit - Price: $21.12 on Amazon

Product description While the K2543 does not replace your ignition system, it gives a huge boost to the older points and condenser style ignition. Gives your car the feel of an expensive luxury car. Better starting and smoother running, particularly at very high and very low RPM. Lower fuel consumption, less pollution, lower servicing costs. Drive economically, drive electronically. Only for petrol/gasoline engines. Only for cars with negative ground.

Specifications

for use with 6V and 12V systems
max. current: 4A
typical firing period: 2.000 µ second
connection speed: up to 500kHz
PCB dimensions: 70 x 35mm / 2.8 x 1.4"

Mike in AZ · 12-12-2018, 12:05 AM

Thanks for taking me along as you sorted out the problem. Nice bunch of cars in the garage. Good job of figuring it out. Mike

flatheadmurre · 12-12-2018, 03:44 AM

Thanks for a nice garage visit.
The velleman unit is not a CDI unit it´s just a point´s booster...
A CDI unit charges up a capacitor and discharges into the coil...the velleman unit still uses the old way charging up the coil but instead of the points opening to let the coil disharge to the plugs it uses a transistor as breaker.
Good thing is that you can wire it in with a 2 pole switch keeping the original condensor as a backup if something happens to the box.

12-11-2018, 12:59 PM	#1
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,744	More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? I started the 41pu and it was running very poorly. I took a series of short clips as I was working on it. Feel free to follow along - get a cuppa and spend 20 minutes with me in the garage. https://youtu.be/V7ah1z-9i7M Mart.

12-11-2018, 03:46 PM	#2
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,943	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Thanks for the letting me in your shop long distance wise, if I ever get to England I'll be sure to look you up.

12-11-2018, 03:56 PM	#3
Step-down Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hat City (Danbury CT) Posts: 647	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Sounds like a dead plug __________________ "I can't cry as long as I know the Lord has risen "

12-11-2018, 06:15 PM	#4
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,076	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Tell us more about your "electronic unit". Is it a capacitive discharge unit?.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

12-11-2018, 06:21 PM	#5
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,744	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? It's a Velleman "ignition amplifier" unit that retains the points in the distributor. Up until this problem I've never had any trouble from them. This is the third one I've ran. I've found them more reliable than condensers. I need to inspect it and see if there is anything obviously wrong with it. I'll feed back with any more info as I work on getting the truck back running 100%. Mart.

12-11-2018, 06:45 PM	#6
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,076	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CDI) unit. See > https://www.amazon.com/Velleman-K254...leman+ignition Velleman K2543 Electronic Transistor Ignition Kit - Price: $21.12 on Amazon Product description While the K2543 does not replace your ignition system, it gives a huge boost to the older points and condenser style ignition. Gives your car the feel of an expensive luxury car. Better starting and smoother running, particularly at very high and very low RPM. Lower fuel consumption, less pollution, lower servicing costs. Drive economically, drive electronically. Only for petrol/gasoline engines. Only for cars with negative ground. Specifications for use with 6V and 12V systems max. current: 4A typical firing period: 2.000 µ second connection speed: up to 500kHz PCB dimensions: 70 x 35mm / 2.8 x 1.4" __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 12-11-2018 at 06:51 PM.

12-12-2018, 12:05 AM	#7
Mike in AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waddell, AZ Posts: 2,540	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Thanks for taking me along as you sorted out the problem. Nice bunch of cars in the garage. Good job of figuring it out. Mike

12-12-2018, 03:44 AM	#8
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: More "fun" at Mart's. What's up with the pickup now? Thanks for a nice garage visit. The velleman unit is not a CDI unit it´s just a point´s booster... A CDI unit charges up a capacitor and discharges into the coil...the velleman unit still uses the old way charging up the coil but instead of the points opening to let the coil disharge to the plugs it uses a transistor as breaker. Good thing is that you can wire it in with a 2 pole switch keeping the original condensor as a backup if something happens to the box.