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lrjones · 02-17-2017, 10:46 AM

I'm going to remove the seat in my 31 coupe. I have found a few posts about it. I see there are 6 screws on each side of the seat bottom that hold the frame to the pan, and there is a piece of fabric between the seat back cushion and the back shelf that is tacked in, but it feels like the top of the back cushion is attached to something somehow. I guess I would like to know what to expect before I dig into it. Not sure if the back cushion just lifts up like the cushion in the rumble seat or what. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

H. L. Chauvin · 02-17-2017, 11:09 AM

Lots depends on "who" did "what" and "when."

FWIW:

Some time ago I called for advice from a Lebaron-Bonney technician knowing that these tech experts do this all day .... every day.

The person I spoke to had experienced the "upholstery inventions" of just about every upholsterer in the World.

One call to one of these L-B technicians may give several clues as to the correct way, and/or clues to several "upholstery inventions" they have experienced in the past.

leo · 02-17-2017, 12:37 PM

Hey H. L. Chauvin, I believe you may be giving the techs at LeBaron-Bonney more credit than they deserve. I recently conferred with them about seat covers for my 1930 coupe and they knew nothing more than I did. Quote from their person knowledgeable in these matters, "I have spoken with a few of our production staff and the consensus is that it is not feasible to try making a cover that would work because of the frame and the need to staple. There would not be a way to secure it properly without the possibility of damaging the upholstery you are trying to protect. With that said, my personal opinion is that if you were to bring the car to a local shop, they may be able to come up with something fitted to your car that would work for you." So, you can call them but don't expect an epiphany. I think all the old timers who used to work there are gone and the current staff is in OJT mode.

H. L. Chauvin · 02-17-2017, 03:15 PM

Hi Leo,

Thanks for the tip. I had called L-B about fifteen (15) years ago. And thanks for your thoughts like:

"I think all the old timers who used to work there are gone and the current staff is in OJT mode."

I also have been running into this same sort of thing every day in my work. Like the old country song, "Who is going to fill their shoes?" LOL

lrjones · 02-17-2017, 03:53 PM

I was thinking that there is some way the back rest part of the seat fastens to the wood frame. That is what it appears to be. I believe the rumble seat back cushion fastens to the rumble lid by sliding it over 2 hooks that are bolted to the rumble lid. I'm sure the factory had a way of fastening these that was easy for the workers.

KGBnut · 02-18-2017, 08:08 AM

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If I recall correctly, once you undo the ties on the backside (through the trunk) and undo the accordion strip (that piece from the top of the seat-back to the package tray), you have to lift the whole thing up and inch or two before you can pull it forward.

I remember that I wrote detailed instructions a few years ago when I the upholstery in my '30 coupe. I will have to look through my old posts.

Ken

lrjones · 02-18-2017, 08:39 AM

Thank you Ken. I found your posts from 2013. I'll try it today.

KGBnut · 02-18-2017, 08:41 AM

That's funny. I was just looking for it myself. Glad you found it. Good luck.

Ken

Ronald · 02-19-2017, 11:31 PM

Remove the seat and at the bottom of the backrest you will find a clip held with two screws about 12" from each side.

02-17-2017, 10:46 AM	#1
lrjones Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Brooklyn Michigan Posts: 53	Removing Coupe Seat I'm going to remove the seat in my 31 coupe. I have found a few posts about it. I see there are 6 screws on each side of the seat bottom that hold the frame to the pan, and there is a piece of fabric between the seat back cushion and the back shelf that is tacked in, but it feels like the top of the back cushion is attached to something somehow. I guess I would like to know what to expect before I dig into it. Not sure if the back cushion just lifts up like the cushion in the rumble seat or what. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

02-17-2017, 11:09 AM	#2
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Lots depends on "who" did "what" and "when." FWIW: Some time ago I called for advice from a Lebaron-Bonney technician knowing that these tech experts do this all day .... every day. The person I spoke to had experienced the "upholstery inventions" of just about every upholsterer in the World. One call to one of these L-B technicians may give several clues as to the correct way, and/or clues to several "upholstery inventions" they have experienced in the past. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 02-17-2017 at 11:10 AM. Reason: typo

02-17-2017, 12:37 PM	#3
leo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 734	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Hey H. L. Chauvin, I believe you may be giving the techs at LeBaron-Bonney more credit than they deserve. I recently conferred with them about seat covers for my 1930 coupe and they knew nothing more than I did. Quote from their person knowledgeable in these matters, "I have spoken with a few of our production staff and the consensus is that it is not feasible to try making a cover that would work because of the frame and the need to staple. There would not be a way to secure it properly without the possibility of damaging the upholstery you are trying to protect. With that said, my personal opinion is that if you were to bring the car to a local shop, they may be able to come up with something fitted to your car that would work for you." So, you can call them but don't expect an epiphany. I think all the old timers who used to work there are gone and the current staff is in OJT mode.

02-17-2017, 03:15 PM	#4
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Hi Leo, Thanks for the tip. I had called L-B about fifteen (15) years ago. And thanks for your thoughts like: "I think all the old timers who used to work there are gone and the current staff is in OJT mode." I also have been running into this same sort of thing every day in my work. Like the old country song, "Who is going to fill their shoes?" LOL Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 02-17-2017 at 03:16 PM. Reason: typo

02-17-2017, 03:53 PM	#5
lrjones Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Brooklyn Michigan Posts: 53	Re: Removing Coupe Seat I was thinking that there is some way the back rest part of the seat fastens to the wood frame. That is what it appears to be. I believe the rumble seat back cushion fastens to the rumble lid by sliding it over 2 hooks that are bolted to the rumble lid. I'm sure the factory had a way of fastening these that was easy for the workers.

02-18-2017, 08:08 AM	#6
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 931	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If I recall correctly, once you undo the ties on the backside (through the trunk) and undo the accordion strip (that piece from the top of the seat-back to the package tray), you have to lift the whole thing up and inch or two before you can pull it forward. I remember that I wrote detailed instructions a few years ago when I the upholstery in my '30 coupe. I will have to look through my old posts. Ken __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

02-18-2017, 08:39 AM	#7
lrjones Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Brooklyn Michigan Posts: 53	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Thank you Ken. I found your posts from 2013. I'll try it today.

02-18-2017, 08:41 AM	#8
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 931	Re: Removing Coupe Seat That's funny. I was just looking for it myself. Glad you found it. Good luck. Ken __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

02-19-2017, 11:31 PM	#9
Ronald Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Collingwood,Ontario,Canada Posts: 27	Re: Removing Coupe Seat Remove the seat and at the bottom of the backrest you will find a clip held with two screws about 12" from each side.