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Old 01-01-2024, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default dana 41 outer axle bearing upgrade?

Howdy boys, working on grandads '48 F1 with a Dana 41 rear differential. Question on the outer bearing for the axle shafts. I have Timken number 514003, which is a sealed bearing. Is it a replacement for what all of the parts schematics I have looked at, show as a tapered bearing? The Dana 41 was used in the early jeeps also. I've looked, but can't find anything definitive. And, for some unknown reason, I seem to have discarded the old bearings. Damn it, I usually keep everything until it's finished. Must have had my head in the wrong area that day. Thanks guys!
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The Dana 41in the early Jeeps had a tapered hub, guessing the bearing is different. M series Studebakers had a 41, but I believe those had tapered hubs as well.
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The Dana 41in the early Jeeps had a tapered hub, guessing the bearing is different. M series Studebakers had a 41, but I believe those had tapered hubs as well.
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Old 01-01-2024, 11:11 PM   #4
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Pete, I have this schematic, it shows the tapered bearing. My axles have the flange on the axle, no taper. I have sealed bearings. They must be correct for my application. Wish I could find a schematic for the Dana 41 I have. They must be out there. Thanks guys!
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Pete, I have this schematic, it shows the tapered bearing. My axles have the flange on the axle, no taper. I have sealed bearings. They must be correct for my application. Wish I could find a schematic for the Dana 41 I have. They must be out there. Thanks guys!
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Contact Chuck Mantiglia at Chucks Trucks in CT. I would be very surprised if he could not help you.
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Thanks Pete, I looked, they are for Jeeps, not '48 Ford pickup.
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Henry, I'll give chuck a try. Thanks!
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Henry!! That's exactly what I was looking for! You are..... The Man! Thanks!
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9” ford bearings I believe. The jeep uses Dana 41 but different axles with taper.
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Do you have the Ford part numbers for the bearings?,
My Timken catalog 1945-1961 lists these Timken part numbers: 1948-F1-8HC, 8RC,
Rear wheel inner: cone 3984, inner cup,3920,
,Rear wheel outer: 462 cone, 453X cup,
Rear wheel inner cone: 18790,
Rear wheel inner cup 18720,
Rear wheel outer cone 18690 cone, 18620 cup,
Rear wheel inner cone: 368A, cup,362A,
Rear wheel outer cone: 359S, cup, 354A.
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Timken 514003=88128 made by: BCA/ FAFNIR (now Timken), FEDERAL, NDH, L&S, FAG, INA, SKF, &well known reputable japanese bearing manufactuers.
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Old 01-03-2024, 02:03 PM   #13
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Got'er figured out boys, thanks! The diff setup came out great! Thanks for the help!
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Got'er figured out boys, thanks! The diff setup came out great! Thanks for the help!
Are they same as 9” rear axle bearing? Google says yes.
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The Mercury 8M-1225-B part number is one of the common numbers for the Dana 41/44 outer axle shaft bearings. They are ball bearings that utilize a race retainer sleeve. Ford developed a new part number in 1952 that was 2C-1225-A and it mentions using those in muddy environments since they have better seals but they are interchangeable.

A person needs the Ford truck chassis parts catalog to find parts for the F1 pickup. The Dana 44 changed a bit in 1950 and then again for the F100 pickups in 1953 but a lot of parts are interchangeable. The Mercury rear axles used from 1949 through 1951 have different spring pads but are otherwise the same.

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