02-19-2016, 09:40 PM | #1 |
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torque value
what is torque value bolts holding throttle brkt on
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02-19-2016, 09:45 PM | #2 |
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While we don't have a throttle bracket (we have a starter mechanism), I would say just use a little common sense.
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02-19-2016, 10:38 PM | #3 |
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Tight but not overtight. I use lock tight on all threaded fasteners except head bolts.
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02-19-2016, 11:16 PM | #4 |
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I admire your asking this question about a "throttle" bracket.
Like your term ..... sounds like an old former early Ford term used in the last century by old folks, like self-starters for starters, chain-falls, and mud guards for fenders, etc. I'll just assume that since this bracket is a component the throttle assembly, you call it a throttle bracket, (and is not shown or offered in catalogs), however; the bracket you may be referring to is referred to as the accelerator bracket (near the Flywheel Section), attached to the rear of the engine with two (2) (SAE 2), 7/16"-14 - 11/16" long bolts, with lock washers which are torqued dry at 32 ft. lbs. & greased at 24 ft. lbs. For future torque references/questions, Mr. Walt Bratton went the extra mile to specify bolt sizes and TPI in his catalog ........... and Mr. Les Andrews's Mechanics Handbook specifies torques for different bolts in the rear of his catalog. Hope this helps to find future torque values. |
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02-20-2016, 12:32 AM | #7 |
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IMHO, the thottle bolt torque numbers should be the same as that used on the flywheel housing to block numbers. I use #60 for starters. The metal spacers fit in that space and the runout measurement to the flywheel housing should be such as to be the right runout.
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02-20-2016, 01:05 AM | #8 |
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I torque my lug nuts to 60#, head bolts to 55#, oil pan 18#, manifold 35#, and all others hand tight with a standard length wrench. Except the rear hub I use a long wrench for it.
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02-20-2016, 01:40 AM | #9 |
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#7 has the correct answer because not only is the accelerator bracket being held on but these are also the last 2 bolts holding the flywheel housing to the block. I use 55# myself
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My "RULE OF THUMB": Tighten bolts until they're SNUG & a little more, to feel them "GIVE" a little.
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02-20-2016, 12:39 PM | #11 |
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Hi Bill,
Correct you are about your "RULE OF THUMB" where not all today are accustom to the "feeling" of snug. Most successful vintage mechanics I knew never had torque wrenches ..... the fragile cast iron clutch housing has perimeter bolts connected to the flywheel housing & are recommended to be tightened to only 20 ft-lbs ..... many protruding cast iron tabs on same are found cracked or broken off. As far as "feeling" ................ heard a guy ask a mechanic what was good for Toothache ...... mechanic said, "Rule of Thumb" ...... if you hit you THUMB hard enough with a big hammer you will not "feel" your Tooth aching. Just ask Bill & Buster-T .... cures fort everything. |
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You may regret using permanent grades on certain fasteners that may require removal, especially small ones . If trying to remove a stubborn fastener held w/ Loctite , heat works best . If it is a small fastener , heat the tool tip & quickly apply it to the fastener IE phillips or screwdriver. It took quite awhile to teach my two boys to be sensible tightening different fastener diameters . |
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Wow!! While I guess none of us know for sure what bracket he was referring to, I immediately thought of the same assembly you did - and as I'm pretty sure that most would. Out of curiosity I googled "Model A Ford throttle bracket" and got nearly 4X the number of results that came up for "Model A Ford accelerator bracket". Must be a lot of old folks out there using previous century terms. The first to show up was a link to Vince Falter's webpage with references to the Judging Standards (see below). What a lot of fuss over nothing. Also the bolt length is also shown as 1-11/16" by Bratton's. - |
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