The Ford Barn

Gerard · 04-01-2011, 02:25 PM

Just want to share my pride, the paint job " Maroon " done 3 coats wet in wet . My arm hurts like hell during the job the gun seems to get heavyer and heavyer. Not a single drip or run.

OEPS I GOOFED the first picture is not my car the one with masking on is mine.

gerrald meacham · 04-01-2011, 02:34 PM

they are not runs. they are flow indicators when they happen

Jack '29 Sport Coupe · 04-01-2011, 02:47 PM

Good job, I'm jealous!

Jack

TinCup · 04-01-2011, 03:02 PM

That's going to be one nice ride!
Good Luck

Mike V. Florida · 04-01-2011, 03:09 PM

Seeing this give the rest of us hope!

Brian-NJ · 04-01-2011, 03:12 PM

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Nice!

Doug in NJ · 04-01-2011, 03:43 PM

Congratulations! I know the feeling.

I got a few runs on my paint job, but only in the corners of the window reveals, where the horizontal and vertical passes of the gun overlapped.

Doug

Ross/Kzoo · 04-01-2011, 03:48 PM

Really looks nice. Probably better than when Henry did it originally.

Mitch//pa · 04-01-2011, 03:59 PM

kudos, nice job

Bob/Kansas City · 04-01-2011, 04:04 PM

Great looking job! Did you use PPG's acrylic lacquer on that?
Also what type of gun did you use?
I'm getting ready to paint mine and am trying to gather all the info I can before I start.
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share.
Bob

Gerard · 04-01-2011, 04:55 PM

Bob, I use a Dutch spray gun At least 35 years old but very well maintained . Before I start to do paint job I place a piece of wrapping paper Approx 2 feet by 2 feet flat on the wall dull side towards me. Then I adjust my spray pattern and paint quantity on the gun. ( test spray ) Then I turn the paper with the shiny towards me and repeat the process ( fine tuning ) I am then able to see the flow process on the paper. If satisfied I continue to do the job. Air pressure is around 60 pounds at the regulator and water trap. The pressure is less at the gun but never bothered to measure. The above discribed method worked fine for me over the years .
Paint is PPG concept acrylic .
To dilute the paint I use a so called DIN cup and measure the flow for the flow trough the spout in seconds and then I know I did it right. Din cups are not known to my knowledge in the USA maybe you guy's use something different. But I just loaned my DIN cup to a professional ( Roll's R guy ) he was amazed that something like that existed.I know for certain there are others who think differently about the way I do it. But the end results are counting only.

Mike V. Florida · 04-01-2011, 05:23 PM

The paint sheet I have refers to a Zahn Cup. A stainless steel cup woth a small whole in the bottom. You dip the cup in the paint and measure the time it takes until the paint breaks the stream.

With the Din cup, I think you wait until the cup is empty.

Gerard · 04-01-2011, 05:29 PM

you are right Mike. we europeens don't like full glasses we empty them as quickly as possible. LOL.

Joop · 04-01-2011, 07:20 PM

WAT EEN SNOEPJE!

Joop

RTC1930 · 04-01-2011, 08:17 PM

I love that first car! LOL... Yours looks excellent too. I hope everything went smooth.

Bob NJ

JBR · 04-02-2011, 09:56 AM

Beautiful job. If you ever get to Iowa, I'll be glad to let you paint my 29 pickup.

Tom Wesenberg · 04-02-2011, 10:18 AM

Your car looks great. Please come and take over this messtoration I got involved in!

I'm a lot further along than this picture shows, but still have a long way to go.

Roadster62 · 04-02-2011, 11:20 AM

Looks great, now you can start with a block, some soap, and some 1500 grit wet or dry paper.

Gerard · 04-02-2011, 01:21 PM

No sanding anymore just a light buff to get a deeper shine but that's it.

Bob/Kansas City · 04-04-2011, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard

Bob, I use a Dutch spray gun At least 35 years old but very well maintained . Before I start to do paint job I place a piece of wrapping paper Approx 2 feet by 2 feet flat on the wall dull side towards me. Then I adjust my spray pattern and paint quantity on the gun. ( test spray ) Then I turn the paper with the shiny towards me and repeat the process ( fine tuning ) I am then able to see the flow process on the paper. If satisfied I continue to do the job. Air pressure is around 60 pounds at the regulator and water trap. The pressure is less at the gun but never bothered to measure. The above discribed method worked fine for me over the years .
Paint is PPG concept acrylic .
To dilute the paint I use a so called DIN cup and measure the flow for the flow trough the spout in seconds and then I know I did it right. Din cups are not known to my knowledge in the USA maybe you guy's use something different. But I just loaned my DIN cup to a professional ( Roll's R guy ) he was amazed that something like that existed.I know for certain there are others who think differently about the way I do it. But the end results are counting only.

Gerard - Thank you for the information. The "old" high pressure way of spraying is what I've been used to doing but I've been looking at the HVLP guns lately and even the turbine systems with the warm, dry, oil free air they supply. it's been hard to try and find anyone that has painted a car with one to see how they actually perform. All the ads make them sound like the best thing since canned beer!
It looks like this old dog needs to learn a new trick!
Bob

04-01-2011, 02:25 PM	#1
Gerard Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Creston Canada BC Posts: 609	ppg paint job nearly done Just want to share my pride, the paint job " Maroon " done 3 coats wet in wet . My arm hurts like hell during the job the gun seems to get heavyer and heavyer. Not a single drip or run. OEPS I GOOFED the first picture is not my car the one with masking on is mine. Last edited by Gerard; 12-18-2011 at 03:55 PM.

04-01-2011, 02:34 PM	#2
gerrald meacham Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FRANKLIN GEORGIA Posts: 158	Re: ppg paint job nearly done they are not runs. they are flow indicators when they happen

04-01-2011, 02:47 PM	#3
Jack '29 Sport Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 798	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Good job, I'm jealous! Jack __________________ Cincinnati, Ohio

04-01-2011, 03:02 PM	#4
TinCup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok. Posts: 1,977	Re: ppg paint job nearly done That's going to be one nice ride! Good Luck __________________ Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group.

04-01-2011, 03:09 PM	#5
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Seeing this give the rest of us hope! __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

04-01-2011, 03:12 PM	#6
Brian-NJ Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kearny, NJ Posts: 53	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Nice!

04-01-2011, 03:43 PM	#7
Doug in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 965	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Congratulations! I know the feeling. I got a few runs on my paint job, but only in the corners of the window reveals, where the horizontal and vertical passes of the gun overlapped. Doug __________________ My '31 S/W sedan project:http://31ford.dougbraun.com My restoration diary: http://dougbraun.com/blog

04-01-2011, 03:48 PM	#8
Ross/Kzoo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Richland Mi. Posts: 1,172	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Really looks nice. Probably better than when Henry did it originally.

04-01-2011, 03:59 PM	#9
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: ppg paint job nearly done kudos, nice job

04-01-2011, 04:04 PM	#10
Bob/Kansas City Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lees Summit, MO Posts: 340	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Great looking job! Did you use PPG's acrylic lacquer on that? Also what type of gun did you use? I'm getting ready to paint mine and am trying to gather all the info I can before I start. Thanks in advance for any tips you can share. Bob

04-01-2011, 04:55 PM	#11
Gerard Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Creston Canada BC Posts: 609	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Bob, I use a Dutch spray gun At least 35 years old but very well maintained . Before I start to do paint job I place a piece of wrapping paper Approx 2 feet by 2 feet flat on the wall dull side towards me. Then I adjust my spray pattern and paint quantity on the gun. ( test spray ) Then I turn the paper with the shiny towards me and repeat the process ( fine tuning ) I am then able to see the flow process on the paper. If satisfied I continue to do the job. Air pressure is around 60 pounds at the regulator and water trap. The pressure is less at the gun but never bothered to measure. The above discribed method worked fine for me over the years . Paint is PPG concept acrylic . To dilute the paint I use a so called DIN cup and measure the flow for the flow trough the spout in seconds and then I know I did it right. Din cups are not known to my knowledge in the USA maybe you guy's use something different. But I just loaned my DIN cup to a professional ( Roll's R guy ) he was amazed that something like that existed.I know for certain there are others who think differently about the way I do it. But the end results are counting only.

04-01-2011, 05:23 PM	#12
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: ppg paint job nearly done The paint sheet I have refers to a Zahn Cup. A stainless steel cup woth a small whole in the bottom. You dip the cup in the paint and measure the time it takes until the paint breaks the stream. With the Din cup, I think you wait until the cup is empty. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

04-01-2011, 05:29 PM	#13
Gerard Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Creston Canada BC Posts: 609	Re: ppg paint job nearly done you are right Mike. we europeens don't like full glasses we empty them as quickly as possible. LOL.

04-01-2011, 07:20 PM	#14
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,952	Re: ppg paint job nearly done WAT EEN SNOEPJE! Joop

04-01-2011, 08:17 PM	#15
RTC1930 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stockholm, NJ Posts: 106	Re: ppg paint job nearly done I love that first car! LOL... Yours looks excellent too. I hope everything went smooth. Bob NJ __________________ "Fix what's broken"

04-02-2011, 09:56 AM	#16
JBR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 346	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Beautiful job. If you ever get to Iowa, I'll be glad to let you paint my 29 pickup.

04-02-2011, 10:18 AM	#17
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Your car looks great. Please come and take over this messtoration I got involved in! I'm a lot further along than this picture shows, but still have a long way to go.

04-02-2011, 11:20 AM	#18
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: ppg paint job nearly done Looks great, now you can start with a block, some soap, and some 1500 grit wet or dry paper. Last edited by Roadster62; 04-02-2011 at 01:33 PM.

04-02-2011, 01:21 PM	#19
Gerard Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Creston Canada BC Posts: 609	Re: ppg paint job nearly done No sanding anymore just a light buff to get a deeper shine but that's it.