Supply chain woes

[Oldbluoval]

Demand.......is a big problem on some items
I recently inquired about some rubber mats on V8; not available.
The prime supplier told me the order quantity had to be 400 units (from overseas, I suppose)
And they hadn’t sold 400 units in 15 years.
Likely formerly made domestically and 100 units??
I can go on about things that have been dropped by lack of demand. Also there are things needed that were formerly made that successor management found unprofitable or not in their new business dynamic. Many former manufacturers had interest in the hobby other than product and profit

[1930artdeco]

Found out that upper radiator hose may be out of stock-for awhile. Went to NAPA and got some generic hose that will work. Be prepared for sticker shock.


Mike

[ronn]

1930


Mikes affordable has those hoses always, and on the cheap.

[Jack Shaft]

Whoa...dont bring Classitique into this Mike does great work and is a man of his word,he hit the delivery date he gave me dead on...As a provider of an assembled product to order its a mark of their reputation that they have a backlog..its also a sign when they perform as promised.

[ronn]

"Mikes affordable" ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[30 Closed Cab PU]

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Another reason is the adoption of JIT (just in time) methods. To keep taxes/inventory/carrying costs down manufacturers keep only enough material and finished goods on hand to meet projected sales/orders. Any disruption or increase in demand is catastrophic and ripples throughout the supply chain for that product.



No longer do manufacturers keep weeks/months or finished goods in stock to cover deviations in increased demand, or disruptions.

[KenBolton]

Have you tried buying a Script Coil or Schrader valve stem parts lately?

[alexiskai]

Update to this thread: Stewart-Warner may have discontinued their Motor Minder color-coded vacuum gauge. At any rate you can't buy one new right now. Supplies are also hard to come by of their other vacuum gauges, not sure whether these have all been formally discontinued. Units are still available NOS or used on eBay and a couple of non-automotive ecommerce sites.

A niche product, I know, but might be important to someone.

[Mike Peters]

Last week I tried to buy a rebuilt 29 Gemmer steering box. Snyders, Brattons and Berts all said they were out and wouldn't expect any until Jan or Feb.
Got an estimate for a storm damaged garage door 3 weeks ago and was told that Raynor in Dixon, Il. is 1-2 months behind due to supply chain hold ups. They can't get the materials needed to build the doors in the first place. U.S. made, still slow. Draw your own conclusions.

[KenBolton]

Schrader valve stem parts- hard to find. Script coils- not available.

[McMimmcs]

It’s not only Model A parts. It’s in every part of the manufacturing industry from toilets to garage doors to dishwashers? We are not unique !

[Licensed to kill]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Many of the formerly available resto parts are going by the wayside
The economic production quantities versus demand and those that can/will produce is waning greatly. Also individual craftsmen are aging and retiring
If you need it and it’s a good part buy it now...or buy 2!
It may not be around in 2 years

While I understand this line of thought, this is exactly what causes shortages. All you need a rumour of a potential shortage to cause an actual shortage as people rush out out and buy up whatever they can find "just in case". Toilet paper last spring is a perfect recent example. Buy what you need if you need it and any "shortage" will be short lived. Buy extra :just in case" and any shortage is compounded.

[old Tom]

How about Barton's in Md?

[ArtimusGordon]

Originally Posted by alexiskai

Wanted to give folks a heads up, Snyder's is out of stock on the laminated timing gear and also the SS water pipe they source from Aries; stock is expected back in "8-12 weeks."

Also had two vendors report out of stock on the copper water outlet gasket (I know, just use RTV).

If you've had any other unexpected out-of-stock reports, post it here.

I have been notified that A&L specialties is moving their malfunctioning closer to his home so all retail has been suspended for the present but manufactured items will be sent to retailers. Hopefully they will be up to full availability soon.

[Oldbluoval]

License-
The gist of my post had more to do with two things
1. A supply/demand curve in a shrinking market place(demand)
2. The change in business dynamics. Some items are no longer available. An example is standard phaeton top irons. Company making them outgrew making low demand items. China won’t make onesies and twozies of anything.
At one time the show quality 31 running boards were off the market. When they came back the price was 3x

So if facts cause some rush to the store to hoard.....well so be it.
The market on a lot of this is minuscule in some cases.
Facts are facts

[ericr]

we've discussed hoarding of original parts before but hoarding of repro parts is a new one.
I suppose the number of Model "A"s the individual owns is a factor.

isn't there a tv show about hoarders?

America is rampant with cat hoarders.

[Mike Peters]

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Default Re: Supply chain woes
It’s not only Model A parts. It’s in every part of the manufacturing industry from toilets to garage doors to dishwashers? We are not unique !

Our dishwasher quit a week ago and yes, new ones are now scarce. So I picked one up today for free that they said worked that was out on a curb. Plugged it in, and it seemed to be OK. Will install tomorrow. Depression era strategies come easy for Model A guys.

[updraught]

Originally Posted by ericr

America is rampant with cat hoarders.

What do you do with them?

[McMimmcs]

Originally Posted by updraught

What do you do with them?

Build large “ cat houses “ !

[ericr]

Originally Posted by updraught

What do you do with them?

lol we merely have large numbers of them. urban areas have lots of loose cats, a few are escapees from homes, most are offspring of strays. people here are very protective of cats.